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lunasea

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Post Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:19 am

only 2

firstly why do they cost the same ammount if you get 14,000k or a 4,000k set?

and secondly if i were to get hids for my current car i would need H4's
FlowLighting HID Headlight Kit FAQ's

What is the difference between size "H4/9003" and size "H4/9003 Bi-Xenon"
The H4 bulb is a dual filament bulb, meaning one bulb has 2 intensities - for low and high beam.
H4/9003: low beam = bright HID bulb, high beam = tiny halogen bulb built in next to the HID bulb
H4/9003 Bi-Xenon: low beam = bright HID bulb, high beam = bright HID bulb (uses electromagnet to move the bulb).

*what i want to know is* does it mean when your driving with driving lights on which is low beam is it allways going to be bright hid bulby ness or would it be the halogen bulb but then hid bulb on main beam/full beam *whatever you want to call it*

im sure some one probibly asked this before but ooh well
Aken

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Post Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:07 am

1) The only difference between the different temperatures is the color.

2) It already tells you that. If you choose the standard H4 bulb (NOT the bi-xenon), your low beam will be HID, and your high beam will be standard halogen.
Tim

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Post Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:49 am

You have projectors, right?

HIDs without projectors is just, well, dumb. biglaugh.gif
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Post Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:03 pm

hid *****
lunasea

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Post Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:30 pm

wtf ryan lol

i dont have hids sorry i didnt make that clear or anything but if i were to get hids i would require H4's but because i live in canada theres daylight running lights that have to be on all the time your low beam *dipped headlights* and i would want them to be like normal halogens and definetly not hids and then when im out at night on a dark road by myself i could use the hids for high beam *main beam*

they seem awfuly pricey and no one answerd the question why do they cost the same ammount when one gives out sufficiently more cendella (thats a mesurment of light its one candle worth) than the other
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Post Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:40 pm

Why do they cost the same? They just do. I've seen some websites sell 4100k HIDs for a bit more than 6000k and 8000k bulbs. Some sites have the bulbs priced all the same. Most people go for the 8000k bulbs because of the look and don't care that 4100k is a brighter bulb and will illuminate the road better than higher k bulbs.
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Post Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:38 am

The ballast and the bulbs are the same for different ratings. I'm guessing there's just different volumes of gas in the bulbs. I doubt the amount of gas in the bulb would change the price at all.
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Post Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:42 pm

ooh thats weird so 4100k iluminate more sounds good so with the different ratings do they turn different colours with the temperatures and is it possible to get HID bulbs that have normal looking halogens for low beam but HIDs for the high beam although i probibly wouldent waste my money on hids for the car i have now
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Post Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:01 pm

Please use commas, periods, and question marks.

3000k - Yellow
4100k - White
6000k - White/Blue
8000k - Blue/Purple
10,000k+ - Purple

Do you have a separate bulb for your high beams? If you do, then just replace that with an HID replacement. If you only have one bulb for your low and high beams then you would have to get a H4/9003 bulb which uses a HID bulb for the low beams and a tiny halogen bulb that sits next to it for the highs.
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Post Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:23 pm

Oznium HIDs:

3000k - Yellow
4000k - White
6000k - Slight Blue/Purple
8000k - Blue/Purple
10,000k - Very blue.
12,000k+ - Very purple.
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Post Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:50 pm

Real photos I took one night with a tripod and 6 different bulbs, no computer editing:

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lunasea

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Post Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:01 am

I would have to get the H4/9003's if i wanted them. I dont see why they have the hid bulb bit as low beam an not the high beam. *crazy*
Thanks Tim i dont use my grammar as much as i should these days.
Thanks phil but to be honest i cant see the difference in any of the last 5 pics, could you have burnt out some thing on your camera, or is the difference just not clear in the pictures.
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Post Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:04 am

The difference is slight
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Post Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:51 pm

Why would you want the HID as the high beam? That makes no sense.
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Post Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:36 pm

umm for seeing the all of the road at night like deer about to jump up at you.
hid headlights are not legal i dont think. i may be wrong. also i said earlyer they have daylight runningligts in canada. so if a cop see's your headlights are amazingly bright even though there low beam. wouldent i get stopped?
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Post Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:51 pm

HIDs are only legal if they come from the factory but your average cop doesn't know if your model car comes equipped with HIDs from the factory. Of course they might get a clue if you're driving like a 1980 station wagon.

Generally, HIDs are just the low beams. Aimed correctly with projectors HIDs shine enough light that most people wouldn't even really need the high beams. As much as HIDs cost, having them used as high beams only is a huge waste of money. How often do you use your high beams compared to your low beams?
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Post Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:11 am

HID's wont work at partial brightness.... The ballast wont be able to dim the bulb.
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