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Oznium to stop selling aftermarket HID headlight kits

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Phil
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Post Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:52 pm

https://www.oznium.com

It's been a blast guys. From selling the HIDs over the last few years, I've gained a lot of business experience, met a lot of cool people, and even travelled to China.

But because of the legality and safety issues of HID kits, I've decided it is time to stop selling them.

This will allow Oznium to push forward full force with other exciting product developments.

Thank you for your loyal support.

- Phil

https://www.oznium.com


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Tim

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Post Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:55 pm

That's good, I suppose.
Chris

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Post Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:11 am

Well at least you can say you had your own.
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Post Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:51 am

I was curious how long it'd last...
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Post Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:32 am

****! Anyone know another reliable source for HIDs?
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Post Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:15 am

Phil, isn't that a decent amount of business?
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Post Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:02 am

Yes it was and it sucks that it has to end, but thinking about it now, I guess that it was inevitable. Sad though as I planned on only getting flowlighting hids if I ever got my projectors. Put as phil stated it gives oznium a chance to push their other products and design new ones.

Still sucks that this has to happen though icon_evil.gif

The korny one.
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Post Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:16 am

NOOO!!! I haven't gotten mine for the bus yet!!!!!!!
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Post Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:46 am

better buy them now..lol
SickWitIt

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Post Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:25 am

Maybe Phil can lead us to a site that he knows is reliable, or if any of you know - please let us know.

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SickWitIt:
I recommend: www.MobileHID.com ... The owner, Clifford is great.
Thanks,
Phil
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Post Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:50 am

I was going to buy a set for the truck icon_cry.gif

guess I will have to use my other source and hope they have lowered prices icon_neutral.gif
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Post Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:19 pm

im getting mine from

http://www.tweakedice.com/hid.html
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Post Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:28 pm

clutch1

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Post Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:52 pm

Got any excess stock left over Phil?

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Good question, clutch.
I'm going sell the last remaining stock internationally in places like Canada and Australia.
- Phil
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Post Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:36 pm

Still don't see why Oz is going to stop selling one of its more popular products. I could stick some multi-color strips in my headlights and drive around with just them on at night and it would alot less safe than some HID's properly fitted into some projector lenses. BMW has been doing it for years.
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Post Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:41 pm

Its a mix between his decision and someone elses.

Good call on your decision Phil, sell advertising space on the HID page ;-)
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Post Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:25 pm

getting mine off ebay.
$72 shipped

my buddy has had them in his Roush F-150 for close to a year now
damn nice looking
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Post Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:57 pm

I've used a seller off ebay with ZERO problems (four kits, as well as several bulbs over two years of use) and most kits shipped are around $80usd...
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Post Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:39 pm

djtecthreat wrote:
Still don't see why Oz is going to stop selling one of its more popular products. I could stick some multi-color strips in my headlights and drive around with just them on at night and it would alot less safe than some HID's properly fitted into some projector lenses. BMW has been doing it for years.


80% of people who buy HIDs do NOT use projectors. It's illegal to use HIDs in halogen housings while driving. BMW hasn't been doing this for years. They sell their cars with projector HID headlights. It's not illegal if it's OEM.
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Post Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:46 pm

It's actual illegal to replace a filament bulb with a non filament bulb for headlights (that's the statement in the federal guidelines)... Auto makers have been using Xenon headlights as a "performance" upgrade for years (with a hefty price tag to boot).
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Post Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:51 pm

Tim wrote:
80% of people who buy HIDs do NOT use projectors. It's illegal to use HIDs in halogen housings while driving. BMW hasn't been doing this for years. They sell their cars with projector HID headlights. It's not illegal if it's OEM.


Even if you buy projector housings for your vehicle, they are still illegal. The only time they are legal is if they come from the factory w/ them.
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Post Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:14 pm

this is a sad day, but theres many more places you could get them from.
but what if you just not sell the bulbs?
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Post Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:45 pm

What makes them any MORE illegal than any of the other products Oznium sells?

Right before I was planning to buy my strobes (Whelen), he stopped selling, and now the HID's.
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Post Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:46 pm

You can install neons and have them off while driving in the night. The HIDs are your main source of light while driving in the night.
Tim

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Post Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:49 pm

Wow, just buy them from one of the three sites listed above. Cheaper and probably better quality.
StoneWhitePT

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Post Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:55 pm

Well Glad i still have my set, but its still going, but i guess ill have to purchase my bulbs somewhere else.

its not even illgeal in fl, but maybe it is, i haven't been stopped for it. even alot of rides here have aftermarket hids too.
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Post Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:10 am

PwrRngr wrote:
Tim wrote:
80% of people who buy HIDs do NOT use projectors. It's illegal to use HIDs in halogen housings while driving. BMW hasn't been doing this for years. They sell their cars with projector HID headlights. It's not illegal if it's OEM.


Even if you buy projector housings for your vehicle, they are still illegal. The only time they are legal is if they come from the factory w/ them.


While technically you are correct, any modification to the forward lighting system that didn't come factory is illegal, BUT when you are installing HID projectors you are installing a DOT approved item into your headlight. The fact that the projector is approved would stand a lot more in court that a HID bulb in a halogen housing.

StoneWhitePT, yes they are illegal in FL too. The DOT laws are for every US state, FL included.
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Post Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:50 am

corvettecrazy wrote:
While technically you are correct, any modification to the forward lighting system that didn't come factory is illegal, BUT when you are installing HID projectors you are installing a DOT approved item into your headlight. The fact that the projector is approved would stand a lot more in court that a HID bulb in a halogen housing.


Now you've lost me, if the projectors are DOT approved... then how can they be illegal? What, does the DOT just go "Yeah they meet our guidelines for approval, so we'll approve them, but nobody can buy or install them.." What sense does that make?
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Post Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:50 am

corvettecrazy wrote:
PwrRngr wrote:
Tim wrote:
80% of people who buy HIDs do NOT use projectors. It's illegal to use HIDs in halogen housings while driving. BMW hasn't been doing this for years. They sell their cars with projector HID headlights. It's not illegal if it's OEM.


Even if you buy projector housings for your vehicle, they are still illegal. The only time they are legal is if they come from the factory w/ them.


While technically you are correct, any modification to the forward lighting system that didn't come factory is illegal, BUT when you are installing HID projectors you are installing a DOT approved item into your headlight. The fact that the projector is approved would stand a lot more in court that a HID bulb in a halogen housing.

StoneWhitePT, yes they are illegal in FL too. The DOT laws are for every US state, FL included.


Well I guess im considered lucky then because i still havent been complained or stopped for them.

Next, I'll buy a car with projectors headlights and just use hids on them.
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Post Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:29 am

Saw they were removed from the website... unless you know the URL, they've been taken out of the hierarchy.

One of you guys might want to remove the "HID Kits" from the title of each page.
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Post Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:13 pm

I think you should just keep selling them with lots and lots of red letters saying "OFF ROAD USE ONLY, NOT LEGAL ON US ROADWAYS.

I don't care. Don't stop selling them. That's my vote!
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Post Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:28 pm

itzbjorn wrote:
I think you should just keep selling them with lots and lots of red letters saying "OFF ROAD USE ONLY, NOT LEGAL ON US ROADWAYS.

I don't care. Don't stop selling them. That's my vote!

X2

That's what everyone else does

I'm sure Phil has his reasons though.
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Post Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:34 pm

So does this mean a new buisnes card reprints?
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Post Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:50 pm

I thought the kits that Phil sold were pretty much a generic kit that was branded with the Flowlighting logos? Tim or someone posted them on some HID forum and they had a name for the manufacturer.
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Post Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:33 pm

Just ordered 3 kits from the E-Bay guy. We'll see what's up when they get here.
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Post Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:46 pm

Moss wrote:
I thought the kits that Phil sold were pretty much a generic kit that was branded with the Flowlighting logos? Tim or someone posted them on some HID forum and they had a name for the manufacturer.


Yea, it was some generic brand. Not sure of the name.
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Post Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:55 pm

Will you still honor the one year warranty?
Phil
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Post Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:40 pm

KrzysD wrote:
Will you still honor the one year warranty?


Yes. You are in good hands.
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Post Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:50 pm

Phil wrote:
KrzysD wrote:
Will you still honor the one year warranty?


Yes. You are in good hands.

Allstate..are you in good hands? icon_lol.gif
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Post Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:58 pm

SickWitIt wrote:
****! Anyone know another reliable source for HIDs?

http://www.xtremehidkits.com/

They have blue & green HID kits!
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Post Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:04 pm

Don't get me started on blue and green HIDs.

Just go ahead and pull yourself over and throw $150 out the window, and go home.
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Post Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:29 pm

Tim, I <3 when you talk about HIDs...makes me happy
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Post Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:37 pm

Tim, Mitata around here with Green HID's in reflector housings. I'll pay you $20 to smash each light. Trick is, they are pop up lights.
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Post Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:50 pm

^ Done
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Post Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:51 pm

They also have a suburban with HID's in reflector housings. I know where they live too biglaugh.gif biglaugh.gif
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Post Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:52 pm

Lol green headlights? I thought red/purpleish headlights were ***
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Post Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:48 pm

Theres somebody cruising around with pink (like serious pink).

I'm still getting blu-ish/white it should be here any day for my Tahoe, and Envoy (including fog lights).
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Post Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:39 pm

It makes me laugh reading Tims posts about HIDs.

He used to have them then learned a crap load of information and smartened right up.

If I was older than you, I would say 'Nice goin' kid!'
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Post Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:18 pm

Moss wrote:
I thought the kits that Phil sold were pretty much a generic kit that was branded with the Flowlighting logos? Tim or someone posted them on some HID forum and they had a name for the manufacturer.


Yep, they were re-branded Techone kits.

itzbjorn wrote:
I think you should just keep selling them with lots and lots of red letters saying "OFF ROAD USE ONLY, NOT LEGAL ON US ROADWAYS.

I don't care. Don't stop selling them. That's my vote!


Sorry man, I've stopped selling them. Decision is final.

If you are still looking for an HID kit, and fully understand the legality issues, I'd recommend MobileHID
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Post Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:00 pm

PwrRngr wrote:
Tim wrote:
80% of people who buy HIDs do NOT use projectors. It's illegal to use HIDs in halogen housings while driving. BMW hasn't been doing this for years. They sell their cars with projector HID headlights. It's not illegal if it's OEM.


Even if you buy projector housings for your vehicle, they are still illegal. The only time they are legal is if they come from the factory w/ them.


I have yet to encounter a LEO that knows the difference between a properly retrofitted Halogen-to-HID projector and an OEM HID projector..... Bulb swaps on the other hand are quite obvious even for noobs. here's an example:

2 people are driving at night:
Noob #1: "dude, the headlights on that car are like really bright and weird"
Noob #2: "sweet, it's like they're super bulbs"
Noob #1: "dude, I can't see a damn thing
Noob #2: (a few seconds later) "sweet, the airbags worked on my side"
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Post Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:55 am

Has anyone actually be been blinded and crashed because of HIDs? Everyone claims it, never heard of a crash directly related to it. I figured all your HID ***** would have dozens of cases of this.
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Post Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:34 am

Moss wrote:
Has anyone actually be been blinded and crashed because of HIDs? Everyone claims it, never heard of a crash directly related to it. I figured all your HID ***** would have dozens of cases of this.


I've had a couple of close calls, run off the road, but no damage done due to HID's in reflector housings.
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Post Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:51 am

Losing quickly wrote:
Tim, Mitata around here with Green HID's in reflector housings. I'll pay you $20 to smash each light. Trick is, they are pop up lights.


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imo



Better safe than sorry with selling things that essentially just reduce the viewing area of other drivers. If I see one more set of HID's in stock housings... >.< . I'm sure you will find more than enough business on your new endeavors.
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Post Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:23 am

Moss wrote:
Has anyone actually be been blinded and crashed because of HIDs? Everyone claims it, never heard of a crash directly related to it. I figured all your HID ***** would have dozens of cases of this.


I've had temporary blindness only a few times from Trucks/SUVs with bulb-swapped HIDs. (but that's proabbaly because my car sits low and their headlights weren't aimed accorgint to OEM spec. I do feel for your Truck/SUV drivers. Technically your headlights are supposed to be aimed at more of a downward angle than cars and it makes night driving really suck. The only real legal solution to this problem without modifying your headlights is to install low-mounted auxillary driving lights. They can shoot further up the road without the risk of blinging oncoming drivers

Now when I see them coming I look at the lower right side of the road. IMO, properly aimed headlights on most vehicles (even with bulb-swapped HIDs) shouldn't present a significant enough problem to make it a federal crime. Once again, the government stepping in where people could easily solve the problem themselves. (improperly aimed headlights are currently a traffic violation in most states)
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Post Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:26 am

I saw a jeep with purple HIDs in the headlights and foglights. They were sexy!

I never have a problem with HIDs. I don't stare at them when driving. That would be like staring at the sun while driving in the daytime.
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Post Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:22 pm

everyone can hate me now....installing 8K HID's in the truck tomorrow biglaugh.gif , and no, I dont have projectors....

My gf hated the stang for the 2 sets of HID's....but never had a problem with them....Ill see how I can aim the truck ones once I get them in....
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