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blue one

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Post Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:09 pm

Hey peeps. newbie blue one here once again with another request for more help...
I'm trying to add a prewired LED to each one of my door handles on the out side, I've seen it done on a few cars on here but but I'm not sure how it was done...
any Ideas on how to do it exactly???

I mean I know I'm gonna have to take off my door pannels again, but then what just drill from the inside out?
or do I take the door handle off?
if so how would I do it???

I'f I can get some info on how this is done, I might be able to start tonight.
please help...
bad venge

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Post Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:19 pm

It depends on your car door handle ... Some can be lifted and drilled from the outside ...
Others can be drilled from the inside... Others will require removal...
You'll have to scoop it out and see what you can do ... Mounting you can either use the led mounts or drill and size the hole to be tight on the led then some silicone sealant to adhere it to ... Be sure to secure the wire to prevent it from getting damaged
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Post Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:32 pm

And be sure to make sure the LED's work before putting your door back together. :lol:

I've thought about this mod, but meh... other than the yellow LED strip in my grill, I'm not really a fan of exterior lights.
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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:14 am

I wasnt going to do it but then I saw it on a neon I think on here and thought it would look good on my car IMO. so yeah, I guess its one of those where I can drill it from the outside in.
I'm gonna go at it here in a little while.. its 8am right now, hopefully I will be done with one side by 9:30.

and yeah Acey, I've often thought about installing without checking them first but then I figured, it only takes a sec to test them with a 9v battery so better safe then sorry you know?
I'll never install without testing first cause with my luck it would turn out that the one I didnt test would be the one that didnt work..
blue one

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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:26 pm

boy did I under estimate. I thought I would have the front and back done on the drivers side in an hour and a half, but instead it took me like 4 hours, I for got about the darn window and how it comes down and can hit the wires.

but its all good now and I'm just waiting for night fall to get some night shots of the glow...
here are a couple pics of how it came out.

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Behind the scenes lol.
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hows it look so far??
and no Its not just held in place with electric tape.. its siliconed down.
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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:41 pm

you should atleast tape those connectors, better yet learn to solder. but nice placement
mx107marlin

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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:06 pm

And the biggest question, can the LED be seen from eye level? How about knee level?

If the answers to both those questions are no, then nice job, especially if it glows good...

If both of the answers are yes, you fail, and need to try again biglaugh.gif
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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:20 pm

haha marlin

from the pics it looks like good placement
post some night shots
blue one

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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:25 pm

yeah actually I'm pretty sure you can see from knee level, and I've heard of low riders, but I dont think anyone is riding low enough to see it at knee level icon_lol.gif

as for eye level, Hell no you cant see it.. since I just installed it a little while ago I have to wait for tonight for the night shots.

I start work at midnight so I will get some night shots on my way in and post them at work.
cant wait..

glad to hear it looks ok. icon_biggrin.gif
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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:44 pm

Looks good so far....nice work on this mod!

Can't wait to see some night shots
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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:15 pm

Ok attempt,but they would look so much better mounted up higher in the center of the handle.Also you need to remove those fingernail/hand scratch marks from the inside of your door handle too,which can easily be done with any decent cleaner wax. icon_cool.gif
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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:48 pm

yeah those things are frigin ugly.. is that what its called? cleaner wax? is that like regular wax??

cause someone said to use rubbing compound.
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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:10 pm

blue one wrote:
yeah those things are frigin ugly.. is that what its called? cleaner wax? is that like regular wax??

cause someone said to use rubbing compound.


Yeah,most store bought waxes usually have a mild cleaner in them anyway,which could remove that.A light compound would also work too.If you have some Meguiars Scratch X,that would do a good job as well.
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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:20 pm

I agree with Tat on this one...

Even if nobody will NORMALLY see it it knee level.... I'd prefer to not be able to see it from ground level, it just makes it look so much better. I guess I'm just picky.

In fact I'm redoing my interior lighting because I can see one of the tubes if I'm sitting down on the ground next to the car door....

Maybe you should have put a waterproof ribbon strip inside the door handle itself (the part that lifts) and run a wire in through that drilled hole... silicone it to keep from feeling it with your hand.
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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:24 pm

eek. looks visible.

MX's idea sounds slick. DO IT
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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:28 pm

ill be waiting for the night pics! I have a 3 inch strip behind my door handle now im thinking about adding a second strip on the part where you pull on like stated above by MX.
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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:33 pm

I had some plans to do it in my car, but I filed them away in my folder with all my other ideas that I rejected.

I don't want to do it unless I had an alarm or something to wire it into, I don't like the idea of having that kind of thing and just putting it on a switch...
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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:40 pm

thats a good idea actually about hooking it up to the alarm. Wouldnt go too good to use around here though. Flashing door handles just yell out come break into me lol mainly because i live in philly lol
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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:47 pm

But flashing door handles on a car with an alarm? Especially that flash when it arms? I would think that it would make you notice that the car has an alarm...

I wouldn't be afraid to do it, but my car has an alarm, but no remote, so that defeats the purpose, I wouldn't be able to turn them on when I needed them. The new car I'm getting also has an alarm (well, a blinking red light, I don't know for sure) but no remote, hell no power locks even.
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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:24 pm

i like the idea of having the handle light up when you hit the unlock button at night
as for an alarm, i dont see a point
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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:42 pm

Alarms are just easy to wire into, most of them already flash something when you lock/unlock the doors.... it's be easy to put a latching relay into the mix and make them turn the door handles on when the doors are unlocked...
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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:09 pm

yeah you know what I'll probably end up re doing the door handles with LED strips since that would have been a better Idea in the first place..

but anyways for now, here are some pics of how it came out.. I think it looks pretty good..
I dont know why my camera sucked on two of these shots but I will get better ones later on my way to work..
So how does it look to yall???


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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:14 pm

Uh oh... I think I see LED's... even from Eye-level.... maybe it's just a hot-spot reflection...

The glow looks pretty good, are those hot-spots really visible with the eye? if so you definitely need to sand down the heads of the LED's to keep from having that spot....

Definitely nice though, a good start if nothing else icon_biggrin.gif Keep working on them!
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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:20 pm

mx107marlin wrote:
Uh oh... I think I see LED's... even from Eye-level.... maybe it's just a hot-spot reflection...

The glow looks pretty good, are those hot-spots really visible with the eye? if so you definitely need to sand down the heads of the LED's to keep from having that spot....

Definitely nice though, a good start if nothing else icon_biggrin.gif Keep working on them!


what do you mean sand it down??
the bulb???

that would eliminate that bright spot that the LED puts out from being shined on something really close???

oh.. and no its not the LED you see.. its definately a hot spot.
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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:32 pm

When you sand down the heads, it just widens the light angles.

Sand them down to the point or close to the point where they are almost touching the rod type thing inside the diode.
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Post Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:37 pm

wow i think they turned out great..
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Post Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:11 am

if you sand em down it will look alot better IMO i just learned about the sanding and it makes it look sooo much better!!
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Post Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:39 am

good lookin out guys.. damn you see. I love this place Oz..

Yall help a brother out alot..
love the tips and advice..

hell yeah, I'm going to sand an LED down tomorrow.
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Post Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:49 am

yea those hot spots are extra hot now that i take another look. I juss did another mod involving LEDs which were all sanded down first lol

Im a Newb and everything but still....What else are we here for? lol
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Post Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:30 am

so how far would I sand it down? can anybody post a pic and show me??
and what would I use.. a sander or would just regular sand paper work???
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Post Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:22 am

I use a nail file. I got one of the fancy $3 ones from the drug store, in the cosmetics section. It's got 6 different grits on it so you can sand the LED down fast then polish the end. My g/f gave me a funny look when I bought it, thought I was going metrosexual on her, but when I told her it was for LEDs she rolled her eyes and said "I should have known", lol.
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Post Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:37 pm

What is in your wheel wells!? I demand to know. icon_smile.gif
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Post Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:00 pm

Yeah blue, oznium & the forums are a sweet place. Soon it will be your homepage as it is in my case.
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Post Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:08 pm

blue one wrote:
so how far would I sand it down? can anybody post a pic and show me??
and what would I use.. a sander or would just regular sand paper work???


I've never done it, but you can sand them down until just before you get to the crystal inside the LED (where the 2 little metal things are)

Here's a picture of a sanded down LED... Oznium sells them, but all it is is a sanded down 5mm LED inside a housing.

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Post Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:34 pm

hmmm I think im gunna do a million color WP ribbon strip in my door handles..which is kinda pointless since im shaving my doorhandles...
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Post Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:13 pm

Looks like it came out great. I have one question how did you supply power to them just a switch or did you hook them to your interior lights?
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Post Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:56 pm

Here's what my l.e.d.s look like after I sand them down,I like to use my Dremel with a cut off wheel,it only takes a few seconds.


Also here's some pics of my version of an door handle l.e.d. install .(Some of you have seen these before.)






This was on my previous vehicle,a 00' Blazer I installed two yellow l.e.d.s under each of the four exterior door handles and two red l.e.d.'s in the rear lift gate handle.I wired the ones in the door handles to flash with the turn signals and the parking lights seperately.I wired my l.e.d.s to an SPDT switch so I could have them on with the parking lights,on anytime and off at anytime.The l.e.d.s in the rear lift gate handle were on the same switch and also came on with the parking lights too.Since I had these wired to the parking lights,they would also flash with my security system. icon_cool.gif
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Post Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:45 pm

Acey wrote:
What is in your wheel wells!? I demand to know. icon_smile.gif


2 9.5 flex strips in each wheel well, pics and how to's are in my gallery.
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Post Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:12 pm

blue one wrote:
Acey wrote:
What is in your wheel wells!? I demand to know. icon_smile.gif


2 9.5 flex strips in each wheel well, pics and how to's are in my gallery.

Thanks.
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Post Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:49 pm

whaaaaat?? wow that really does work.. thanks Tat.
here are the updated pics after I sanded one down. I'll be doing the rest tomorrow.


this is with the hot spot.

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and this is after sanding (hot spot gone icon_biggrin.gif )


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Post Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:53 pm

Hell yeah, good pictures. Glad everything worked out for ya.
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Post Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:02 pm

dirtybelly wrote:
Looks like it came out great. I have one question how did you supply power to them just a switch or did you hook them to your interior lights?


they are connected to the rocker switch that controlls my door pannels...
the interior.. its in my gallery also.
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Post Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:24 pm

Way better! And they were already lookin' fine to begin with. Oz rocks!
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Post Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:49 pm

did you do like Tat did?? Take you whole handle off or just drill in it with it on the car still??
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Post Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:08 am

ryan71489 wrote:
did you do like Tat did?? Take you whole handle off or just drill in it with it on the car still??


drilled into it while it was still on the car. I'm thinking about taking it off and doing it like tat.. but i'm not sure yet, I think I'm going to order the flexible ribbon strips and replace the LED's with that instead... that seemed like a good Idea. but I'm not sure yet as these look really good right now..

Decisions Decisions icon_confused.gif
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Post Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:28 am

Haha, I would leave well enough alone, unless you want to go with strips, I'd just leave them.

Looks really good, it's not surprising what sanding can do though, If you think about it, the dome on the top of the LED is nothing more than a lens to focus light. Take it away and the light is unfocused and smooth.

I'd quit while you're ahead, assuming you still can't see the LED itself, continue on much longer and your door handles will look like swiss cheese.
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Post Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:09 am

blue one wrote:
whaaaaat?? wow that really does work.. thanks Tat.
here are the updated pics after I sanded one down. I'll be doing the rest tomorrow.
No problem,that looks much better. icon_cool.gif
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Post Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:43 am

If it's not broke - don't fix it. Looks great just leave it icon_smile.gif
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Post Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:36 pm

Heck yes sanding them works. The majority of my 5 mm's are sanded down. Works well.
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Post Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:37 pm

yeah I really liked the out come..

I'm going to do the rest of my leds inside my car now.
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Post Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:50 pm

I re did all of my interior leds..
they are all sanded down now and looking alot better.. thanks for the advice MX...



as for the door handles and the scratch marks

Tat2Dragons wrote:
Ok attempt,but they would look so much better mounted up higher in the center of the handle.Also you need to remove those fingernail/hand scratch marks from the inside of your door handle too,which can easily be done with any decent cleaner wax. icon_cool.gif



I went out and bought some scratch out (I think thats what it was called)

and here is the before and after pics..

thanks for the tip about the cleaner wax Tat2.


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makes a hell of a difference.. almost looks new huh?
what do you guy's think?
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Post Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:57 pm

That makes me kind of curious.... Did cleaning it up help the glow out? Or is it about the same?
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Post Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:23 am

HUGE improvement-
lookin good
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Post Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:44 am

TeDy wrote:
That makes me kind of curious.... Did cleaning it up help the glow out? Or is it about the same?


well since the scratches were kind of high on the handle it didnt make too much of a difference..
all I know is I cant belive the scratch out stuff worked that good..
tomorrow I'm going to be touching up all the little scratches around my car..
can hardly wait, I love washing/detailing my car.
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Post Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:22 pm

blue one wrote:

Tat2Dragons wrote:
Ok attempt,but they would look so much better mounted up higher in the center of the handle.Also you need to remove those fingernail/hand scratch marks from the inside of your door handle too,which can easily be done with any decent cleaner wax. icon_cool.gif



I went out and bought some scratch out (I think thats what it was called)

and here is the before and after pics..

thanks for the tip about the cleaner wax Tat2.


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makes a hell of a difference.. almost looks new huh?
what do you guy's think?


Your quite welcome,glad to help. icon_biggrin.gif
They look much so much better,nicely done. icon_cool.gif
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Post Sun Mar 09, 2008 1:49 pm

Nice job dude. Looks fantastic. Makes me almost inspired enough to do Millioncolor door handles for a short period before I take em out and weld up the holes...
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Post Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:57 pm

Ohhh.... If I wasn't about to sell my car, I'd wire in a few superfluxes in the door handle and control them with my V2 interior setup...

Damn you guys and your ideas... oh well. Maybe in the next car.
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