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Focal Fury

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Post Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:24 am

hmmmm
so if its not near the antenna its ok???

might be better than what we got

regardless already told the factory our results so we're trying to get zero interference as the goal

D A N N Y
bpatrick

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Post Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:23 pm

Any new news on the beta versions?
Phil
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Post Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:17 am

Factory is still working to get zero interference and minimal heat output.
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Post Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:26 pm

Holy Crap!

Just installed five of these on my Jeep Wrangler for rock crawling and discovered the immense static that they cause.

Worked for hours soldering and making custom mounts and wire looming each LED back to a central box. Then worked for hours trying to figure out what was causing the problem. Once I connected a single flood LED isolated outside of the Jeep directly to the battery I knew these things were bad news.

Then I find this forum and that this has been a known issue since MARCH and there is no warning or any mention of the problem on the product page.

Sorry to sound so gruff but this product should not be for sale or at the very least should be posted with a warning.

Oznium what do I do now?
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Post Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:31 am

I agree 100% that there should be a warning on the product page. I also went to considerable expense fabricating a custom Stainless Steel enclosure to mount 8 of these floods on my boat.

I found, as you now have, that Oznium was aware of the issue before I made my purchase. If I would have known of the problem I would have used something other than these LED Floods. I am kind of STUCK with them now due to the great expense and hours of fabricating work. icon_evil.gif
Dennis A

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Post Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:16 am

I was planning on installing two of these under the passenger foot rest on the GoldWing but I think I'll wait until I hear from the factory RE this problem. In case some of you don't know; the GoldWing is a Honda touring motorcycle that has CB, AM/FM, cassette, & two way communications between the passenger & the driver. This interferance could be an issue.
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Post Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:25 am

I went with Pirhana bars under the footboards (or any of the flexibles) No interferance
Tdawgthegreatest

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Post Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:50 pm

I think that there was only one case of these causing static if I recall right.
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Post Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:53 pm

You MIGHT want to read thru the thread there . icon_wink.gif

There's a half dozen complaining of it on boats
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Post Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:18 pm

bad venge wrote:
You MIGHT want to read thru the thread there . icon_wink.gif

There's a half dozen complaining of it on boats


...and one person complaining about them when used as brake lights on a car.
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Post Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:11 pm

Fortunately my issue (brake lights) is more just annoying than a safety problem...
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Post Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:45 pm

How's the R and D going Oznium?
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Post Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:11 am

I hate for my second post in this forum to be a complaint but I am heated. This was my first post:

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ciscopath wrote:
I just installed eight 1-Watt LED Floods and tied them into the courtesy lights of my Acura TL. The "planned" purpose of the lights is to come on when I hit UNLOCK on my keyfob and go out w/ LOCK. Lights work perfectly when I unlock the doors but I have to stand directly next to the car when the lights are on for the keyfob to function. If I'm more than 3 ft away, the TL doesn't respond to anything. And after 30 seconds w/o opening the doors, the car re-locks itself, lights go out, and the fob works at normal range again. It's almost as if the lights (which only generate 8 watts) are drawing power away from the keyfob's RF receiver causing it lose the range at which it normally picks up fob commands? Can anyone recommend a relay or resistor that may resolve this?


Now Iím reading this thread and learning that this has been an on-going issue since March that has nothing to do with power but with crappy design. I purchased 3 lights in early October and noticed sometimes the car would respond and sometimes it wouldnít. Thought the fob battery may have been weak. Purchased 5 more on November 2 giving me four on each sideskirt. Now, to find out these lights interfere with RF signals defeats the whole purpose of my project since the functionality of the lights and my key fob are at war and absolutely no warning was given. From March to November, no product warning. I cut holes specifically the size of the lights into body components of my car, so there is no turning back now. Starting to feel a little ripped off here. I know I can easily get a refund, but itís almost as if Oznium is trying to get over and hoping no one uses the lights near a radio. And it sux to feel this way because I've been buying from them for years with no problems.
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Post Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:17 am

The factory has finally found a solution to fix the RF interference. Yes you are right, we do hope customers don't have to use them with RF, but a fix will be ready soon.
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Post Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:18 pm

Will the people who bought them already be able to exchange them for the new design ones?
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Post Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:03 pm

I was kinda hoping that goes without saying. I'm gonna try the foil for the time being but from what I can tell from the Oznium reps, they're more than willing to accomodate.
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Post Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:12 pm

If for some reason you are not able to use the current product because of RF you can let me know and we can send you new ones when we get these in and make sure they are good to go!!

D A N N Y
diy_darryl

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Post Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:25 pm

I am one of the customers having problems. I am using 6 blue and 2 red floods.

So you'll send replacements or do I need to contact the company directly????
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Post Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:59 pm

same here
CBHaws

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Post Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:49 pm

Phil thank you for your persistence. As soon they are ready I am ready to make a purchase.
Thanks again,
Charlie Haws
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Post Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:00 am

diy_darryl, RF free blue will be shipped tomorrow
lime4x4, RF free blue will be shipped tomorrow
bpatrick, RF free red will be shipped tomorrow

ciscopath, unfortunately we do not have the cool white in RF free version yet, it will likely be another few months

red, blue, green, orange available in RF free now
cool white, warm white, gonna be a few more months

thanks for patience, sorry about the inconvenience
Tdawgthegreatest

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Post Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:22 am

Phil wrote:
diy_darryl, RF free blue will be shipped tomorrow
lime4x4, RF free blue will be shipped tomorrow
bpatrick, RF free red will be shipped tomorrow

ciscopath, unfortunately we do not have the cool white in RF free version yet, it will likely be another few months

red, blue, green, orange available in RF free now
cool white, warm white, gonna be a few more months

thanks for patience, sorry about the inconvenience


Yay for Oznium
ChevyCaprice9C1

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Post Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:31 am

awesome will have to order one of the new RF models i have one of the old ones behind my tv in my room and it messes with my surround sound and makes my tv go fuzzy. so are the ones on the product page now the RF models?
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Post Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:36 am

Yep if you order r,b,g,o
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Post Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:30 pm

Phil wrote:
diy_darryl, RF free blue will be shipped tomorrow
lime4x4, RF free blue will be shipped tomorrow
bpatrick, RF free red will be shipped tomorrow

ciscopath, unfortunately we do not have the cool white in RF free version yet, it will likely be another few months

red, blue, green, orange available in RF free now
cool white, warm white, gonna be a few more months

thanks for patience, sorry about the inconvenience


Awesome! Thanks a lot! Most companies wouldn't even bother r&d a revised product, they would just keep pushing the original and tell everybody else you are s-o-l. I will post updates once I get the new ones installed.
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Post Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:32 pm

My thanks to Oznium for working out a solution and sending replacement RF-FREE units.

You stated I had blue replacements on the way but did not mention my RED ones, maybe you overlooked it. I bought 6 blues and 2 reds, all installed on my boat and all causing the same problem.

Thank you so much for standing up and doing the right thing. I'll be ordering more Oznium products for my next projects!!!!
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Post Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:03 am

diy_darryl, RF free red & blue were shipped today
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Post Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:39 pm

Received my replacement package. icon_biggrin.gif

Just one question as my removal and replacement will be difficult to access, plus it is cold out and may not accomplish the task for a while.

5 of the BLUE LED'S arrived in the old-style sealed anti-static bag packaging and the other BLUE plus BOTH REDS were packaged differently in a zip-lock baggy with no labels on the LED's themselves.

How do I know for sure that the replacements were all RF-FREE versions?????
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Post Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:02 pm

Phil,
Thanks again. My interest is with the white spot leds. I will stay tuned to see when they are available. Is there any way I could get an email when they do start shipping?
cbhaws@verizon.net
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Post Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:29 am

BUMP!

Has anyone had a chance to install these RF_FREE LED's and test them out? I cannot install my replacements yet as we are in the middle of winter and not going to freeze with my difficult install.

REPORT?
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Post Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:41 am

diy_darryl wrote:
BUMP!

Has anyone had a chance to install these RF_FREE LED's and test them out? I cannot install my replacements yet as we are in the middle of winter and not going to freeze with my difficult install.

REPORT?


You don't have to install them to power them up and see if they cause interference. I'm sure your boat's battery or another 12v power source on the boat isn't under water.

Heck, you could probably test it in your car with a cigg outlet adapter.
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Post Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:21 pm

I did a quick ghetto test by running the flood that I know caused interference near a regular radio and I got the expected static whenever it was powered up. I then did the same test with the new rf free model and no static!!! I have yet to install them in my car, but I have high hopes icon_biggrin.gif
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Post Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:46 pm

Yay for Oz R&D
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Post Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:14 pm

Success! I finally got around to installing the new floods as my brake lights; turned on the stereo and hit the brakes... no static! Thanks Oznium for redesigning the floods icon_biggrin.gif
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Post Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:41 pm

Glad to hear its better now :)

Thank you for sticking with us throughout this process.
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Post Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:40 am

It's Feb 12th.
Any news on the white floods yet.
Getting ready to start sprucing up the GoldWing before riding season starts.
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Post Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:22 pm

Hey, thanks for checking

I think we've got

18 Cool White of the old style left, and once those are gone, the new style will start shipping (any day now)

216 Warm White of the old style left, and same deal
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Post Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:22 pm

Phil wrote:
Hey, thanks for checking

I think we've got

18 Cool White of the old style left, and once those are gone, the new style will start shipping (any day now)

216 Warm White of the old style left, and same deal


Does this mean that you are selling the bad ones first?
What is the diff between the two?
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Post Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:13 pm

One causes interference, the other doesnt. Id imagine.
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Post Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:38 pm

I guess I will be taking them off my boat and returning them then..... And I JUST finished putting them on too!!!
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Post Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:17 pm

Good Times,
Just think at least they will work right and your work will be all worth it in the end.
If your boat is the one with the lights in the front, in wood, I thought that was kewl!
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Post Sun Apr 25, 2010 11:17 pm

Phil wrote:

18 Cool White of the old style left, and once those are gone, the new style will start shipping


Unless you notify the customers before they purchase them that they cause RF interference, I really don't see the good business ethics here in putting a corrected product on hold while waiting to sell a remaining defective product, especially if the customers that purchase the remaining lights use them near radios and will have to go through the process of returning them for corrected ones anyway. Makes more sense to me to just write off the defectives and push the goods.

Anyhoo, are the RF free cool whites available yet?
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Post Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:18 am

Makes sense cisco

Yea should all be RF free now
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Post Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:17 pm

Gravy. When I ship my old ones back, will I have to go thru a process of receiving a refund and having to purchase RF frees or will it be an automatic swap out.
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Post Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:55 am

No reason to ship anything back, we'd just toss them out anyways.
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Post Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:37 am

Which means, you get freeeeeeeee lights. Yay for Oznium!
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Post Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:16 pm

I Hav'nt been on the site in awhile. I am using 4 blue floods on my 350z, With Ohio being tough on glow, I hav'nt used them when drivng with FM on. My tunes are usually from the Ipod. It has me wondering how the FM holds up to the floods.
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Post Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:21 pm

I have my floods 1 each mounted in the wheel wells, lucky, no RF.
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Post Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:29 pm

Phil wrote:
No reason to ship anything back, we'd just toss them out anyways.


So how does this process work, Phil? Do I just submit my return order, put "RF interference" as the reason, and this will automatically get the RF Free floods shipped out?
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Post Sat Jun 05, 2010 6:11 pm

FINALLY got around to replacing my old floods with RF-FREE floods in my boat. Had eight of them mounted from the inside of a 2x5 rectangular stainless steel tube, quite the PITA to R&R.

BUT...... GREAT NEWS and many thanks to Oznium for doing the research, finding a solution and sending me FREE replacements!!!!!

They work FANTASTIC!!!!!! No more interference on my FM or VHF Radio!

Just AWESOME customer service OZNIUM!!!

Already planning to buy more from OZnium!

COOL!!!!!!!!
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Post Sun Jun 06, 2010 1:08 am

Thank you for the continued support
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Post Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:26 am

I ordered a bunch of Floods a few weeks back. Installed or tested them all and the WORK PERFECTLY. NO Rf problems at all.
Phil Thanks for continued product improvement.
I did send my bad ones back and got the refund no questions.
I have replaced some cheap string leds on the flybridge. Red for night vision, blue and green for looks at the dock. Next project is to build a water proof housing for underwater use. 3 or 4 spot leds per pod. May even put 3 white, green and blue in each pod. May try the one Phil already markets. I run the Mid-Atlantic Bertram Rendezvous so I am getting the boat ready for the show.
I have been showing my boating friends how I attached a regular light socket to the flood to replace the power hungry 12 volt cabin lights. Not the cleanest install because the wires come out the side; but they work very well. These lights screw into a can anyway so all anyone sees is the led end and if it is on they get blinded looking into the fixture anyway!!!

Phil you should make up replacement screw-in lights for the guys who have up to 15 of these old style lights on their boats.
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