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IceDog
Joined: Feb 13 2005 Posts: 320 Location: LA, California 2000 Acura TL Last updated: 01/26/07 |
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I want to put flame throwers on my car, without spending more than a hundred bucks.
Can I use my stock catback exhaust system. How much effort is needed to make these things work? what kits are the best? |
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pOrk
Joined: Jan 03 2004 Posts: 7764 Location: Milwaukee Wi 1996 Chevrolet S-10 Last updated: 11/12/08 2001 Chevrolet Impala Last updated: 02/07/07 1978 Honda CBR 929 Last updated: 12/13/07 |
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They don't make kits to do it right, and its gonna cost you more then 100 bucks to do it right. your car is far too new to do it on the cheap
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ImagoX
Joined: Aug 24 2006 Posts: 2124 Location: Columbus, Ohio 2006 MINI Cooper Last updated: 10/27/07 1976 MINI Cooper Last updated: 05/07/08 2005 MINI Cooper Last updated: 05/07/08 2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser Last updated: 05/07/08 |
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Making something that ignites a spray of gasoline in a car that you plan to ride in on the cheap seems like a contender for an upcoming "Darwin Award" to me... If it were me, and I had a burning desire (no pun intended... heh) to do this, the FIRST thing I'd be asking myself would be "if price were no object, how safe could I achieve this result"?
If price IS an object, maybe sticking to a less... um... "explosive" mod is in order... May I interest you in some of Phil's new (non-combusting) LED strips? |
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druidman227
Joined: Jun 11 2005 Posts: 1231 Location: River Edge, NJ 2001 Saturn SL2 Last updated: 09/05/05 2006 Saturn Vue Last updated: 01/05/07 1994 Saturn SL2 Last updated: 01/11/07 |
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DARWIN AWARDS. best books and stuff ever.
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ImagoX
Joined: Aug 24 2006 Posts: 2124 Location: Columbus, Ohio 2006 MINI Cooper Last updated: 10/27/07 1976 MINI Cooper Last updated: 05/07/08 2005 MINI Cooper Last updated: 05/07/08 2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser Last updated: 05/07/08 |
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Well, you have to admit that something like:
"While attempting to turn his car's gas tank into a flame thrower, using only zip-ties, PVC tubing and baling wire, California native "IceDog" was vaporized when a stray spark set fire to the entire tank of gasoline..." ...really DOES sound like something you'd read in there. Just the thought of doing this makes me nervous, but the though of doing it anyhting less than 100% as safely as possible really makes me cringe. |
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druidman227
Joined: Jun 11 2005 Posts: 1231 Location: River Edge, NJ 2001 Saturn SL2 Last updated: 09/05/05 2006 Saturn Vue Last updated: 01/05/07 1994 Saturn SL2 Last updated: 01/11/07 |
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heh. that sounds EXACTLY like something from the darwin awards. personally i think the ones where they survive but are "steralized" are funnier.
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ImagoX
Joined: Aug 24 2006 Posts: 2124 Location: Columbus, Ohio 2006 MINI Cooper Last updated: 10/27/07 1976 MINI Cooper Last updated: 05/07/08 2005 MINI Cooper Last updated: 05/07/08 2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser Last updated: 05/07/08 |
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My all-time favorite Darwin Award story still has to be the JATO (Jet-Assist Take-Off) unit someone allegedly fit to a car and fired up - they ended up planted INSIDE a cliff face 100' above the road, like something in a Roadrunner cartoon...
I think Mythbusters tested that one on one of their shows (I'd live to see that). |
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Rags
Joined: Apr 21 2005 Posts: 3489 Location: cleveland 1999 Chevrolet Cavalier Last updated: 10/12/08 1969 Plymouth Road Runner Last updated: 10/14/06 1997 Mitsubishi 3000GT Last updated: 07/27/06 1991 Plymouth Sundance Last updated: 11/24/06 2006 Jeep Wrangler Last updated: 01/02/09 |
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if i can do it on a sundance you can do it on an acura. and the kit i did was a cheaper kit and i havent had any real problems with it yet. but i would advice having an aftermarket catback with a test pipe.
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pOrk
Joined: Jan 03 2004 Posts: 7764 Location: Milwaukee Wi 1996 Chevrolet S-10 Last updated: 11/12/08 2001 Chevrolet Impala Last updated: 02/07/07 1978 Honda CBR 929 Last updated: 12/13/07 |
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^ ROFL!!!!
Definatly do not do that |
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Rags
Joined: Apr 21 2005 Posts: 3489 Location: cleveland 1999 Chevrolet Cavalier Last updated: 10/12/08 1969 Plymouth Road Runner Last updated: 10/14/06 1997 Mitsubishi 3000GT Last updated: 07/27/06 1991 Plymouth Sundance Last updated: 11/24/06 2006 Jeep Wrangler Last updated: 01/02/09 |
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worked for me didnt it
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itzbjorn
Joined: Jul 21 2005 Posts: 2028 Location: MPLS Minnesota 2003 Yamaha FZ6 Last updated: 08/24/07 1999 GMC Sonoma Last updated: 11/13/07 |
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Until one day...
BOOM! |
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IceDog
Joined: Feb 13 2005 Posts: 320 Location: LA, California 2000 Acura TL Last updated: 01/26/07 |
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lol sounds like I'm getting mixed advice here.
I'm not going into the fuel line or anything like that. I'm merely igniting the remaining fuel residue that is exiting the exhaust pipe. The kits are merely sparkplugs drilled into the exhaust. I don't think there is much of a risk here. The kits are so cheap on ebay; I think I will buy one and try it just for fun. Obviously, you Pork have lots of experience, but it appears your flames are much larger than I plan. My car is pretty new and it is a dual exhaust, so I don't expect the flames to be pretty big. But 50 bucks is worth it. IMO |
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78_towncar_460
Joined: Mar 12 2006 Posts: 156 1978 Lincoln Town Car Last updated: 08/04/06 |
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That would be an incredibly ricey thing to do on a 2000 acura TL.
The catalytic converter filters out much of the unburnt fuel, so it is going to depend what the combustion mixture is like. In a carbureted car, you could tune the idle/float level/power valve fuel settings to make this sort of thing work better, but you won't be able to do that very easily with a new, fuel injected car. Any newer Japanese car gets pretty good emission ratings; aren't TL's ULEV cars? |
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justin
Joined: Jan 15 2004 Posts: 5047 Location: Madison 2003 Chrysler PT Cruiser Last updated: 07/20/08 |
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^ exactly. methinks the "test pipe" aka NO CAT is the key to the solution here.
my guess is youre keeping your cat. its not going to work, and is a waste of money. x2 on ricey on an acura as well. |
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boosted
Joined: Nov 15 2006 Posts: 239 Location: garfield NJ 2000 Nissan Silvia Last updated: 11/16/06 |
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just strap a nitrous tank to the bottom of ur car and buy a elctronic bottle opener and have u friend hold a lighter to it haha
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Losing quickly
Joined: Apr 26 2005 Posts: 5693 Location: WI |
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I just hold a lighter to my butt and let `er rip.
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IceDog
Joined: Feb 13 2005 Posts: 320 Location: LA, California 2000 Acura TL Last updated: 01/26/07 |
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It's actually not topping the RICE scale here in Los Angeles. So, I'm not too doubtful on it. I think spoilers are the ricest thing you can do.
The emissions is the only problem. Can I test it by holding a flame by my exhaust? |
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pOrk
Joined: Jan 03 2004 Posts: 7764 Location: Milwaukee Wi 1996 Chevrolet S-10 Last updated: 11/12/08 2001 Chevrolet Impala Last updated: 02/07/07 1978 Honda CBR 929 Last updated: 12/13/07 |
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You can try, but nothing is going to happen. Fuel Injected cars run pretty efficient, when you try to run them rich bad things happen. Not only that, but the cat is going to catch those fumes you need to BURN. If you remove the cat, you will have better results but still would need to run your car rich. Running the car rich does one of several things, the most severe being the washing of your cylinder walls with gasoline which is NOT friendly with your oil. Basically, your car will need an oil change every 250 miles or you risk damaging your engine. An OPTION, if you want to spend some coin and some serious time researching, is to inject. Get yourself an EFI fuel pump ( or two if your running dual exhaust ), two coils, two plugs, two wires, and make some nozzles ( I use crimped brake lines ) as well as some safety devices to prevent back burning, and you'll be set. Skipping the use of safety devices would allow burn back, the fire would follow the gasoline into your reservoir or gas tank and an explosion will be likely. That is kinda babbeled together, I am not getting nearly enough sleep lately. That is all for now |
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ImagoX
Joined: Aug 24 2006 Posts: 2124 Location: Columbus, Ohio 2006 MINI Cooper Last updated: 10/27/07 1976 MINI Cooper Last updated: 05/07/08 2005 MINI Cooper Last updated: 05/07/08 2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser Last updated: 05/07/08 |
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Wait till pOrk's rested I guess before following that post.
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GlowinPontiac
Joined: Mar 04 2004 Posts: 5960 Location: Central CT 1995 Pontiac Grand Am Last updated: 01/14/07 |
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that myth was busted. but they did strap 3 large rockets to a car and fired them and that alone was pretty cool! |
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ImagoX
Joined: Aug 24 2006 Posts: 2124 Location: Columbus, Ohio 2006 MINI Cooper Last updated: 10/27/07 1976 MINI Cooper Last updated: 05/07/08 2005 MINI Cooper Last updated: 05/07/08 2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser Last updated: 05/07/08 |
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Well, in my mind, it's still alive.
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Rags
Joined: Apr 21 2005 Posts: 3489 Location: cleveland 1999 Chevrolet Cavalier Last updated: 10/12/08 1969 Plymouth Road Runner Last updated: 10/14/06 1997 Mitsubishi 3000GT Last updated: 07/27/06 1991 Plymouth Sundance Last updated: 11/24/06 2006 Jeep Wrangler Last updated: 01/02/09 |
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you can do it for under 100 bucks and not have fire like that. you dont need a seperate fuel pump with nozzles. you do need the coil and wire though.
http://www.youtube.com/v/nFWMrHSNauk thats a **** video of mine. its not as big of a flame as everyone thinks it will be, but still cool as ****. |