SuperFlux LED Piranha Bars - Destined to be great?

Are these going to be the next big thing? I have a good feeling about them. The price is at a perfect sweet-spot for the amazing amount of light output, and EASE of install.

Key Facts:
- 20 inches long
- Jam packed full of 30 SuperFlux LEDs
- Plug and play "link-ability"

So I got an email from a friend in China talking about these amazing "cannibal fish". I was confused as hell. But then I realized, oh, he must be talking about Piranha's. And I know Piranha's are a type of SuperFlux LED. Crazy translators!

Names are a funny thing. We've got the Beefy LED strips. I often joke we should add some Chicken Strips

These 20-inch Pirahna Bars at only $15.99 are brighter and cheaper than a comparable 19-inch Flexible LED strip at $18.49! They hook up to any 12 volt source, and once you have the first unit powered, you can keep "marching them along" like building blocks because of the quick connectors on each end.

What they aren't:
- Not waterproof - But could easily be waterproofed with some silicone on either end
- Not flexible








Fit some under the dash. You think 20" is too long? Measure, you'll likely have room. You could always run it at an angle.

Fit some in the engine bay. Just silicone up the ends.

Or make your own crazy underbody kit!

PRODUCT PAGE: http://www.oznium.com/piranha-bar

I think warm white should be yellow and yellow should be orange. Unless these pics mess up color bad.

Looks like a nice product. Any light output shots or comparison with other products?

The warm white looks really yellow in the photos. In person they are very similar to a standard incandescent bulb - yellowish white.

The yellow also look more orange than they do in person.

hmmm...those do look pretty neat. I bet the sale of cathodes has gone down the drain since you have introduced LED strips, and now, these. If they were about 12 inches long, they would make a great replacement for cathodes under your seat, or you could shove them under the dash.

i dig them..but they seem kinda long to me..what about offering them in two sizes?
like 10 and 20"? i know theres no way in hell i can fit a 20" non flexible tube under my dash or seats

Whatever you do, don't get rid of the longer sizes...

Thos e look really good, and nice price! We need wavelength tech specs to color match with existing lighting!

While these are very cool and would be probably brighter then the flex strips. I dont see them taking over. The flex strips are damn near perfect. You can bend them and they are damn near indestructable, water proof and you can put them ANYWHERE. For the extra 3 bucks sorry but ill stick to the strips philbo. They are just too good of a product. Perfect for almost ANYTHING. These would be nice for some things but like i said. Flex strips is still your #1 product by far and for good reason. These just dont have the..ugh cant think of the word...umm flexability when it comes to installs. No pun intended . Like I said. Yea they will be brighter but I see these as being a great item but it wont be huge. The flex stip has way more plusses than minuses. Nice product though and I might have to buy one and test it out and play with it. These would probably make nice grill lights.

EDIT..that plug and play idea is DAMN cool though and that is a very cool idea.


The korny one

These don't look very bright.

pOrk wrote:

These don't look very bright.

exactly what I was thinking.

I like.. still trying to convince myself I can use them though.. Thought about grill glow.. I dunno. If I don't like the waterproof thin strips I'll be testing out soon I might pick up one to test. Definitely a great product though.

The lack of flexibility is a negative IMHO, as is their lack of waterproofing. A HUGE plus is the daisy-chain ability, though, but that can be replicated in flex strips with a 2-port molex connector. Comments on brightness based on photos mean NOTHING - images can be under- or over-exposed in the camera or in post-processing - we'd need hard numbers from a light measurement device to compare apples to apples. I'm sure you'll get us those data, though, knowing you, Phil. Also the rounded covers and flat backs mean that instllation looks easy.

I'm curious about how the light angle of these stacks up to the Flex Strips though... I used Flexies in a friend's car under the seats and dash, and felt the directionality of the 5MMs in the Strips was a drawback as oppsed to cathodes (whoch give out 360-degree light). How do the Cannibal Fish (heh) stack up in this area? If you need a test vehicle, you know I'm pricing out LEDs to "bluminate" Nano v2.0, and I'd be willing to use these over Flex Strips and document it thoroughly if you like - LMK.

Thanks, Phil!

They fit just fine in my highlander under the dash & the seat!




The brightness is very close, but the piranha is a bit brighter than the flex strip!


Piranha on the left, 19" flex strip on the right (stuck to another piranha bar to keep it straight)

Sorry philbo but they arent really any brighter. The flex stips are almost indestructable and have WAY more mounting possiblities. The flex strips are WELL worth the extra 3 bucks. Well worth it imo.

He's showing off a new product that brings new things up, not trying to convince you to switch your favorite item dude You don't have to shut him down every time he posts. I am still an Iceled fan but I find these a pretty nice addition to the Oznium line. Of course seeing them in person would be the defining factor.

Someone hurry and do an install with em

The_Mastor wrote:

He's showing off a new product that brings new things up, not trying to convince you to switch your favorite item dude You don't have to shut him down every time he posts. I am still an Iceled fan but I find these a pretty nice addition to the Oznium line. Of course seeing them in person would be the defining factor.

WOW..ummmm wow...

I'm not cutting down on the product. I am simply telling that one of HIS other products will be better seller than this. How am I shutting him down. Trust me a seller would much rather have people say that they would buy the flex strips over the fishies than to have everone say OMG BEST THING EVER adn lie and say they will forsure buy one. Then have phil stock a butload of them and no one buys them. Sometimes products just arent as good as others. Tis buisness. Thats the way it works. I talk to phil all the time about his products and the store and just random stuff. He knows I am not just trying to shoot him down about everything. Make the fishies flexable like the flex stips. Then i would get on one knee. I just dont see this product being as good as the flex strips. Sorry if the truth hurts but thats just it..the truth. Which I am sure he would much rather have.

Definitely looks like a bit more output, and in a wider spread (but that might be an exposure thing form the added brightness) from the one on the left...



Maybe it's being diffused differently? Either way, I'd like to try these in my MINI - my installation points in the cabin are straight and get no moisture, so it's doable. In the engine bay, I think I'll stick to Flex Strips - _ need a bit of curve in there to mount them where I want, and I like the total weatherproofness and heat resistance of silicone for that space. 20" might be too long for the dash, and it's DEFINITELY too long for my seats, though - shorter lengths would be preferred...

For UB, I still need to use flexible Beefy Strips, though... I need a product that has minimal LED visibility from the sides, flexibility and major water resistance, and the Beefies fit that bill perfectly.

What I would like to know is if the individual LEDs are 20ma or 80ma? In otherwords, single chip or 4-chip?

Flex strips aren't indestructableby any means at all. I've had half of one of my 38" million color color strips fail (it works, but you need to move it around because the connection is messed up).

Plus for under a dash, or even better, in a grill, these are perfect. Why bother spending an extra 3 bucks for a flex strip when you don't need the flex.

I'll consider them, possible for the engine, possibly to replace the cathodes under my seats and dash and in my grill, who knows. I like the looks of this product a lot though.

clutch1 wrote:

Flex strips aren't indestructableby any means at all.

Mine ran 2" from a hot engine in rain, snow and other bad weather for over a year. That's good enough for me. The wires feel flimsy, they really do, and that's why I reinforced them with tape wrap and well thought-our routing.

I never used the million-color though, just single color.

Might fit the Highlander but the Explorers hardly have any room..was trying to use a 12" neon tube i had laying around to make a LED tube and it didn't fit..10" is the biggest i can go and seems it might be kinda of a universal size. also the seats i hardly have 8" they are electric and heat seats so theres a bunch of wires under it
I really like the fact that it has a wider pattern..i would most def. pick up 2 to put under my rear seats and maybe the grill

Q45guy wrote:

What I would like to know is if the individual LEDs are 20ma or 80ma? In otherwords, single chip or 4-chip?

I think all superfluxes are 4-chip right? Not sure myself, but leaning towards 4-chip.

SickWitIt wrote:

Q45guy wrote: What I would like to know is if the individual LEDs are 20ma or 80ma? In otherwords, single chip or 4-chip? I think all superfluxes are 4-chip right? Not sure myself, but leaning towards 4-chip.

not not all of them are

corvettecrazy wrote:

SickWitIt wrote: Q45guy wrote: What I would like to know is if the individual LEDs are 20ma or 80ma? In otherwords, single chip or 4-chip? I think all superfluxes are 4-chip right? Not sure myself, but leaning towards 4-chip. not not all of them are

Thanks for clearing that up. Q45guy, contact Phil through the Oznium contact page, or wait for a response. Sorry to clutter thread.

On Topic: Like the idea Phil. May try some of these in the near future.

ImagoX wrote:

clutch1 wrote: Flex strips aren't indestructableby any means at all. Mine ran 2" from a hot engine in rain, snow and other bad weather for over a year. That's good enough for me. The wires feel flimsy, they really do, and that's why I reinforced them with tape wrap and well thought-our routing. I never used the million-color though, just single color.

Cold seems to be a big enemy, they get brittle and crack and stuff. I changed my wheels from summer to winter tonight, and respositioned my wheel whell flex strips, they resisted flexing quite a lot, lol.
Turned out that all 4 of them have problems, 3 have about 12" on the ends that turns off depending on how you have it moved, and on 1 all the red leds are out (I checked my wiring over, and it's not that).

Grrr, they'll work for now though!

These Piranha Bars can easily be cut into any combination of sizes. They are sold in 20" increments, but don't let that inhibit your imagination.

The circuit board easily slides out from the acrylic shield.





The circuit board can be cut every 3 LED's or every 2 inches!






The acrylic shield is a little trickier to cut. You could probably use a hack saw, but I recommend using a circular saw.



Notice the crack, this happened when I tried cutting it with a different tool



then put it back together!



2 x 10 inch Piranha Bars in 5 minutes!



If you need them to be waterproof, try the SMD bars: http://www.oznium.com/smd-bar

These are modular and can be cut the same way!

ahhh...thats better

Max, after cutting these can they still be daisy chained? I'm assuming it would just require re-soldering the connector to the "new" end. I would just like to make sure.

NOW we are getting some where. Much better. What would make these uber badass is if you had like quick connects in them so you could easily make it 10in or 16 or 20 or what ever. That would make me buy these in an instant.

Pwr. I would think they would, they have the + and - solder spots on the ends.

Maybe these would be good for my waterbed

Pwr. Yes the circuit board is a lot like that of the Ribbon LED Strips.

Bad ass dude. Never seen you before now but Welcome Max.

Can you tell me what kind of amperage this bad boys draws (power source is from car's 12v)? I'm working out a project to use the two I already bought and hook them up to a dimmer switch - but I need to know how many watts it has to be able to handle. Thanks!

There are 30 superflux LEDs per bar. They can be cut every 3 LEDs which tells me there are 3 LEDs in series and then each "branch" is in parallel.

So there are 10 parallel branches. Each branch pulls 80mA. So a total of 800mA (0.8A) is pulled for each piranha bar.

PwrRngr... I dunno if those are 80mA LED's or not... from the pictures, I doubt that they're 4-chip LED's...

Probably 2-chip or single chip superfluxes... so 20-40mA

mx107marlin wrote:

PwrRngr... I dunno if those are 80mA LED's or not... from the pictures, I doubt that they're 4-chip LED's... Probably 2-chip or single chip superfluxes... so 20-40mA

You could very well be right as I have never actually seen the piranha bars in person. I just saw that the product page said "30 superflux LEDs" and assumed they were the 4-chip once. I searched the FAQ quickly and didn't see a current draw on there. Either way that would be the maximum current draw.

I guess I'm in a slump lately. First I can't do a basic voltage drop across a resistor and now this.

Haha, you're alright... I have never seen a piranha bar in person either, but I do know that there are single, 2, 3, and 4-chip Superflux LED's

That's just as much as I know though, they may be 4-chip. I think someone should clarify that for us

I've got one being shipped so we will see when I get it ...

Do a search on Piranha LEDS...