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silentbob97

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Post Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:08 am

Well I have been searching for some HID fog lights for awhile now, but I can't find any! They only sell the HID bulbs but not the housings. Or they sell the fog light housings with Halogen bulbs. Is there any place I can get the Housings and the HID bulbs together? Or do I have to buy the halogen housings and replace the bulbs with HID's?

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Post Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:18 am

You might be able to find something on eBay or find something on a web store. But odds are it will be you buying the fog housings then buying a set of hids of your choice and throwing them in there. Nice thing about that is you can choose the temp you want and such.
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Post Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:56 am

^^^ Yea I checked ebay already and I couldn't find any. Looks like you are right I will just have to buy the housings seperately. icon_sad.gif
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Post Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:06 am

I saw a set at Harbor Freight but they are large off road type lights
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Post Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:51 pm

Try to find some Blazer fogs. Blazer is the brand. I believe they come stock on C5 or C6 Vetts. They have projector housings, 880/881 bulb type. I love mine.
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Post Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:55 pm

Hmm HMm.....8K icon_wink.gif

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Try and get housings that are glass as they can handle more heat than plastic....you can buy the standard housings and then just replace the bulbs with HID bulbs and ballasts etc...

just make sure you have enough room to fit an HID bulb in the housing before you buy them icon_cool.gif
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Post Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:24 pm

02BlueStang wrote:
Hmm HMm.....8K icon_wink.gif

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Try and get housings that are glass as they can handle more heat than plastic....you can buy the standard housings and then just replace the bulbs with HID bulbs and ballasts etc...

just make sure you have enough room to fit an HID bulb in the housing before you buy them icon_cool.gif


I thought HIDs were sopost to generate less heat than standard halogen bulbs? Am I mistaken here?
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Post Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:38 pm

PwrRngr wrote:

I thought HIDs were sopost to generate less heat than standard halogen bulbs? Am I mistaken here?


You are correct. HID's produce less heat than standard halogen bulbs. In which case if they can handle regular bulbs it will be able to handle the HID's. heat wise that is.
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Post Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:21 pm

Let me know what size your fog light bulbs are and I will check the shelves of HIDs I have and sell you a set ;) shhhh not for street use ;)
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Post Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:35 pm

I just got a set from Advanced and replaced the bulb. I'm sure you'd get better throw with something specially made for them, I'm not too happy at all with the results I'm getting. Currently in search of some Micro DE projectors.
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Post Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:08 pm

Man you can find anything at Harbor Freight:
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If you are worried about heat output my H3C bulbs produce a decent amount of heat but they also don't have the UV shielding of standard HID bulbs:
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Post Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:18 pm

what is the UV shielding?

I'm planning using them with my Hella Micro DEs
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Post Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:21 pm

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the outter glass tube surrounding the inner glass assembly where the HID arc lives has a coating to eliminate UV emitions from the hid arc, the H3C's don't have this since they're a bare/exposed assembly.


The main issue with using typical H3 pnp bulbs is the arc isn't quite where is should be and the output is lacking in compairison to H3C hid bulbs, so for me I'll take take the non UV bulb for better output and cast (as well as it's ablitiy to clear the lenes of rain/snow) than the lower output from typical H3 bulbs...
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Post Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:02 am

why would you want to eliminate UV ray output?
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Post Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:08 am

Radioflyer wrote:
why would you want to eliminate UV ray output?


How could you NOT eliminate UV ray output? Almost all glass (all commercial glasses) absorb UV light. Here's the reason why...

The reason for this absorption has to due with the bonding of each glass type. Most comercial glasses are sodium-silicates. These glasses consist of a connected silica network, which is broken up by an alkali (sodium). The addition of sodium breaks the network creating non-bridging oxygens, which lowers the melting temperature as well as reducing the energy of electromagnetic radiation needed for absorption. In combination with small amounts of iron impuriity, which leads to intense UV absorption bands, these non-bridging oxygens prevent the transmission of UV light.

It should be noted that different glasses have different UV edges (the frequency of UV light that begins being absorbed). Borosilicate glass with small amounts of alkali will actually transmit further into the UV spectrum as a result of the boron anomoly, with fused silica (pure SiO2) glass transmitting the furthest. Even fused silica though will only transmit into the very low energy UV light.

In essence, the more loosely the electrons are bound, usually because they are not involved in covalent bonding in the case of non-bridging oxygens, the less UV light is transmitted.

The process of photochromitism utilizes this effect where charge transfer bands from added transition metals cause glass to change color when exposed to UV light. This is the result of electron transitions within the glass to more excited states. When the glass is no longer exposed to UV light the electrons return to their equilibrium position and the glass clears.

Think about it for a second. If glass didn't absorb UV light, you would tan from sitting under flourescent lighting.

Seeing as how HIDs are glass, my conclusion is that this coating is doing something....but not blocking UV output.
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Post Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:45 am

and HIDs produce more heat.....yes they take less energy because they are burning a gas vs heating an element....but the gas burns at the temp of the bulb...

so you have a halogen bulb that burns around 3500K and then you put in a HID bulb that burns between 4300K-12000K depending on which one you choose......so do a little experiment and get plastic housings...sit back and watch em melt icon_wink.gif

Heat is what you have to worry about...not the wattage the bulb is pulling from the car battery.....The gas inside the HID bulb is what lights it....and it burns extremely HOT
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Post Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:22 pm

just wanted to note that the OEM fog lights from a 97-04 C5 Vette are on ebay with a fair price. Im thinking about picking up a set because it looks like he has sold them before in the past. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...00244662801&_trksid=p3911.m7
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