been awhile

Whats all new?

I notice robbie ban ribbons...he finally get banned?

No. There's a strong coalition working hard for it, though LOL

What's new?

Sport a ribbon brick!

why are we banning robbie?

Drifting10 wrote:

why are we banning robbie?

No one will say. It's all "top secret" and **** like that. IMO, if you put ban robbie in your sig and don't know why ban him...you're retarded.

Anyways, welcome back Brick. Anything new done to the car?

PwrRngr wrote:

Drifting10 wrote: why are we banning robbie? No one will say. It's all "top secret" and **** like that. IMO, if you put ban robbie in your sig and don't know why ban him...you're retarded. Anyways, welcome back Brick. Anything new done to the car?

It has been stated several times in the trogers thread by korn.

Yep

Kevin_S wrote:

PwrRngr wrote: Drifting10 wrote: why are we banning robbie? No one will say. It's all "top secret" and **** like that. IMO, if you put ban robbie in your sig and don't know why ban him...you're retarded. Anyways, welcome back Brick. Anything new done to the car? It has been stated several times in the trogers thread by korn.

Yeah, I don't read that. It's 30 pages of talk about nothing so I just leave it be.

I'm the man.

PwrRngr wrote:

Yeah, I don't read that. It's 30 pages of talk about nothing so I just leave it be.

for some reason, this quote makes me feel very accomplished....

first of all welcome back

and i am trying to stay out of the banning robbie think

nah nothing new to the car yet...Going through a move. thinkin im gonna move in with my girl and save way too much money.

October 1 im out of my current place so we will see what happens.

And I say ban him because he starts millions of threads, starts **** with ppl and just overall annoying. So I will support a ribbon forsure.

TheBrick wrote:

nah nothing new to the car yet...Going through a move. thinkin im gonna move in with my girl and save way too much money. October 1 im out of my current place so we will see what happens. And I say ban him because he starts millions of threads, starts **** with ppl and just overall annoying. So I will support a ribbon forsure.

Someone being annoying and starting **** w/ people isn't a reason to ban someone. I find a couple people on here annoying and they start **** w/ people but they aren't banned. Basically, you're wanting to ban someone b/c there opinion is different than yours.

Because all Robbie does is cause commotion and he has such a negative attitude that it's a pain in the ass for him to be here. In a nutshell.

Wow... my post got deleted... I'm awsome

TRogers wrote:

Because all Robbie does is cause commotion and he has such a negative attitude that it's a pain in the ass for him to be here. In a nutshell.

So what? Moss does exactly what you described but I don't see a ban Moss "sticker" What you need to do is:

1) turn around
2) pull your panties out of your ass
3) get over it.

PwrRngr wrote:

TRogers wrote: Because all Robbie does is cause commotion and he has such a negative attitude that it's a pain in the ass for him to be here. In a nutshell. So what? Moss does exactly what you described but I don't see a ban Moss "sticker" What you need to do is: 1) turn around 2) pull your panties out of your ass 3) get over it.

Honestly PwrRngr. I can see where you are comming from as you have not seen the most of it. Alot of people aren't on as much as me and Trogers are to see most of what happens. As the mods get to it and delete it before most can see. He does some very **** stuff. I would not have it in my sig if I felt it wasn't needed. I have very good reasoning for it as do a couple others. Some just show it becuase they feel it should be done as well. Trust me. It isn't just that he didn't send the kit. Or his threads. It goes alot deeper than that.

let's hug.

kornholio788 wrote:

PwrRngr wrote: TRogers wrote: Because all Robbie does is cause commotion and he has such a negative attitude that it's a pain in the ass for him to be here. In a nutshell. So what? Moss does exactly what you described but I don't see a ban Moss "sticker" What you need to do is: 1) turn around 2) pull your panties out of your ass 3) get over it. Honestly PwrRngr. I can see where you are comming from as you have not seen the most of it. Alot of people aren't on as much as me and Trogers are to see most of what happens. As the mods get to it and delete it before most can see. He does some very **** stuff. I would not have it in my sig if I felt it wasn't needed. I have very good reasoning for it as do a couple others. Some just show it becuase they feel it should be done as well. Trust me. It isn't just that he didn't send the kit. Or his threads. It goes alot deeper than that.

That's my point. It seems to be an issue between you, TRodgers, and Robbie. You two have since turned it into a forum wide issue. People are following you two (because of your reputation and good status on the board) blindly and completely uneducated about the issue. I did read back through some of your other thread (the one that's 32 pages) and the example I found was when lwrider (some name like that) put the ribbon in his sig. He didn't know what the issue was, asked about it and got the same basic answer that has been given (not sending the kit, post whoring, and being annoying). Then he joins the club.

Since you, TRodgers, and Robbie appear to be the only ones who know what's going on, you need to make it a private issue. Get a mod (one that's not bias), yourself, TRodgers, and Robbie and communicate via PM or some private means. It's completely pointless and irresponsible as a forum mod to attempt to sway public opinion on the issue when they are uneducated. Since you're dealing w/ an uneducated mass of people on the issue, they shouldn't be involved in the decision. The responsible thing to do would be to take it out of your sig, stop posting about it, and communicate between the four of you (mod, Korn, TRodgers, and Robbie) in a private setting.

PwrRngr wrote:

So what? Moss does exactly what you described but I don't see a ban Moss "sticker" What you need to do is: 1) turn around 2) pull your panties out of your ass 3) get over it.

TRogers wrote:

Because all Robbie does is cause commotion and he has such a negative attitude that it's a pain in the ass for him to be here. In a nutshell.

^^^See bold

Go read all the reasons why before you start popping off at the mouth. It goes way deeper, and affects way more people then just me and Korn.

We're not forcing this issue onto you, you're just getting yourself involved. If you don't like the ribbons then disable signatures or ignore them.

On a side note, there is no D in my last name.


Geesh.

PwrRngr wrote:

kornholio788 wrote: PwrRngr wrote: TRogers wrote: Because all Robbie does is cause commotion and he has such a negative attitude that it's a pain in the ass for him to be here. In a nutshell. So what? Moss does exactly what you described but I don't see a ban Moss "sticker" What you need to do is: 1) turn around 2) pull your panties out of your ass 3) get over it. Honestly PwrRngr. I can see where you are comming from as you have not seen the most of it. Alot of people aren't on as much as me and Trogers are to see most of what happens. As the mods get to it and delete it before most can see. He does some very **** stuff. I would not have it in my sig if I felt it wasn't needed. I have very good reasoning for it as do a couple others. Some just show it becuase they feel it should be done as well. Trust me. It isn't just that he didn't send the kit. Or his threads. It goes alot deeper than that. That's my point. It seems to be an issue between you, TRodgers, and Robbie. You two have since turned it into a forum wide issue. People are following you two (because of your reputation and good status on the board) blindly and completely uneducated about the issue. I did read back through some of your other thread (the one that's 32 pages) and the example I found was when lwrider (some name like that) put the ribbon in his sig. He didn't know what the issue was, asked about it and got the same basic answer that has been given (not sending the kit, post whoring, and being annoying). Then he joins the club. Since you, TRodgers, and Robbie appear to be the only ones who know what's going on, you need to make it a private issue. Get a mod (one that's not bias), yourself, TRodgers, and Robbie and communicate via PM or some private means. It's completely pointless and irresponsible as a forum mod to attempt to sway public opinion on the issue when they are uneducated. Since you're dealing w/ an uneducated mass of people on the issue, they shouldn't be involved in the decision. The responsible thing to do would be to take it out of your sig, stop posting about it, and communicate between the four of you (mod, Korn, TRodgers, and Robbie) in a private setting.

It is def not between just me, robbie, and Trogers. There is much more to it. Like I said. There is alot you can't didn't see. So I can see where you are comming from. There is a big issue here and it deals with a member that won't take action. ALL of the moderators have come together many times, many, many times and have tried to get things done. Nothing. Over and over. So we are starting to take matters into our own hands.

Like i said if you truely understood the WHOLE situation you would start to understand my actions more. But you haven't seen/heard 95% of it. I just briefed you.

kornholio788 wrote:

Like i said if you truely understood the WHOLE situation you would start to understand my actions more. But you haven't seen/heard 95% of it. I just briefed you.

IF MOST OF THE ISSUE IS HIDDEN FROM SITE, IT'S SHOULDN'T BE A PUBLIC DISCUSSION. If I haven't seen 95% of whatever's going on then neither has other people. I'm on here a LOT during the day so I see more than most other people. Here's my logic; If I don't see 95% of the stuff happening then other people don't either. If other people don't see the issues then there's no reason they need to be involved (since they don't know what it's truly about) and it should be a private matter.
You're arguing that most of the issue isn't seen (which I agree with) but then getting public opinion and support on the matter. If it's not seen by most people then don't get them involved w/ their uneducated views (they are only seeing your side of the agreement and not Robbi’s since the posts are deleted before they can be read).

TRogers, you're helping my argument. "In a nutshell" That is all everyone knows except you, korn and apparently some mods. Why are you getting public opinion and support when they only know "in a nutshell" what's happening? Answer: because it's easier to get support when people are uneducated and only presented one side of the agruement. But that's besides the point. The point is that only TRogers and Korn know the whole issue.
I would venture a bet that out of the 8 person support you have, only you and Korn know the actual matter at hand. You've turned into politicians on the board. Swaying opinions to the uneducated public by only providing one side of the story (Robbie has a side but it's deleted and hidden from view). No one has the ability to see the whole issue b/c posts are deleted. Does Lorider, A-Ray, Blazeredsxt, BLAZER_97, TheBrick, and Kierra all know the whole story. I GUARENTEE TheBrick doesn't b/c he came back asking what the ribbons were about after all the posts were deleted.

I'm not attempting to agrue for or against the ban of Robbie. My opinion on banning Robbie is completely neutral. My opinion on Korn and TRogers getting the community involved when they don't know what's happening is very poor.

I once again see where you are comming from. And it is not just me and Trogers like I said to you eariler. It is also all the mods. In fact Trogers has also not seen some of it. Many other members have been treated like **** from robbie. And dont' want to see it continue. It is a long going story. And I have kept this personal for a long time. I have kept it to sections that the public couldn't see. But the person that is supposed to deal with this isn't. And i am tired of it. And I am hoping that taking it public might help. I am almost like doing a online "100 signiture sheet" type deal. With enough people agreeing. Maby he will be forced to make the right decision.

Mr. Ranger, I still don't see the reason you are complaining. For the sake of argument or what? Like I said before, ignore it if you don't like it. Don't ***** to me, or about me. I don't take it lightly.

Keep yourself involved as long as you wish, we're going to keep doing what we're doing with you ***** or not.

I'm holding back right now, since there is no reason to get all **** off ONLINE.

First off, I didn't jump on a bandwagon just becuase some other people want a person banned. I'm sure that I have missed some things here and there on the boards. But my opinion is not only based on stuff from here, but a few things that have happend between Robbie and I in pm's. Also, meeting robbie in person, I have seen other things that none of the people here on the boards know about.

Maybe if you don't think robbie should be banned then you should start you own coalition to support not banning robbie or, you can do like TRogers said and just stay out of everything all together.

A-Ray wrote:

Maybe if you don't think robbie should be banned then you should start you own coalition to support not banning robbie or, you can do like TRogers said and just stay out of everything all together.

I'm not saying I'm for or against the ban (hence no ribbon of any kinda in my sig). I remain fairly neutral because I don't know the whole story. I do have my personal opinions on him but that doesn't matter at all b/c it's unrelated to what I'm saying. My arguement isn't the ban, it's about the publicity. I think I've expressed my arguement and opinion very clearly. If you think it's about my opinion whether I support the ban or not, I suggest you go back and re-read what I've written.

I'mg not afraid to admit that I did miss the part where you said you were neutral, but when you brought my name into things I had to step up and let you know why I was in the RBC.

I do agree with you in that some of the RBC members probably do not know anything about the goings on, but what can you really do about that?

I'm too lazy to read all of this (especially because it doesn't even concern me lmao)....
Let's all make use of that fancy PM system that some poor code monkey worked hard to develop.

:hug: everyone...hug.

I find it funny that I made a comment about blocking the ban ribbon link and a reply to kevin's question got deleted.... Makes me think somebody has a strong interest in this whole affair... I find it sad to see such a great website go to this route... and I'll say it again I find it funny how Korn would freak on ANYBODY who said a damned thing AT ALL about AKEN good or bad (I still have no clue what the hell went down on that one and when I asked "hey what's up with that" I got yelled at), yet here he is flaming somebody else....

Boo hoo. The world isn't fair...and never will be.

kornholio788 wrote:

Many other members have been treated like **** from robbie. And dont' want to see it continue.

Yet you can flame other members and it be ok?



I'm seeing why Aken left in the first place...

You link me to where I hardcore flame other members like robbie. You link me to where I send messages to mods and other members like he has. Oh wait. You don't know what he sent. So you have NO idea what the hell you are talking about.

You have no idea why the hell we are doing. You have no idea what you are talking about. You don't like it. Leave. Jesus christ.

I don't go around bashing MULTIPLE members and MULTIPLE moderators every day. I have seen ALL of what robbie has done. You have seen very little.

You don't like the way I am doing things. Then tell Phil to take away my mod powers.

Learn the whole story before you open your mouth.

Black DX wrote:

I find it funny that I made a comment about blocking the ban ribbon link and a reply to kevin's question got deleted.... Makes me think somebody has a strong interest in this whole affair... I find it sad to see such a great website go to this route... and I'll say it again I find it funny how Korn would freak on ANYBODY who said a damned thing AT ALL about AKEN good or bad (I still have no clue what the hell went down on that one and when I asked "hey what's up with that" I got yelled at), yet here he is flaming somebody else....

I didn't delete it. Don't know who did. Don't make assumptions.

As for the thing about Aken. That was a COMPLETELY differnet senario. Once again. YOu have NO idea what you are talking about. Have no idea what really went down. And have NO idea what was requested.

I really thought you were a cool dude, Korn......

Since we DON'T KNOW what happened, why don't you tell us?

Did you all grow manginas overnight?

I would have already let all of this go already. If you don't need to be involved, then there is no reason to talk about it. You're acting like a bunch of little girls who get upset when they don't have things their way, or don't know what's going on.

http://www.oznium.com/forum/topic18176 : not flaming?

I'm not going to go through all of your posts, but you have done your fair share of flaming.

That lips thread was hilarious.

Losing quickly wrote:

http://www.oznium.com/forum/topic18176 : not flaming? I'm not going to go through all of your posts, but you have done your fair share of flaming.

How was that thread flaming? I was the person involved in the whole reason robbie got the nickname Lips. He got that nickname during a "meet" in nashville. This thread was just to poke a little fun at him. The picture was created during the chicago "meet" and the idea of the harmless fun was brought up by j_martin during the meet, not Korn.

If anything I got made fun of more in that thread than robbie did.

Losing quickly wrote:

I really thought you were a cool dude, Korn...... Since we DON'T KNOW what happened, why don't you tell us?

I really thought you were a cool dude until you started **** talking me about something you have no idea about.

I can't show it to you. Hense why you don't see it now. I tried to keep this private. I tried to be civil. But the actions that for sure should have taken were not. I am not the only moderator that agrees with this. In fact all the mods did. What is being done now is like a protest in some way. Us mods have been not listened to long enough. And we have started taking things into our own hands. Sad it is yes. But guess what. The member that is responsible(Not robbie here) is the one that is even sadder.

A-Ray wrote:

Losing quickly wrote: http://www.oznium.com/forum/topic18176 : not flaming? I'm not going to go through all of your posts, but you have done your fair share of flaming. How was that thread flaming? I was the person involved in the whole reason robbie got the nickname Lips. He got that nickname during a "meet" in nashville. This thread was just to poke a little fun at him. The picture was created during the chicago "meet" and the idea of the harmless fun was brought up by j_martin during the meet, not Korn. If anything I got made fun of more in that thread than robbie did.

Exaclty. Once again Losing you weren't even aware of what was going on! Not once did I actually flame him. We were joking around. I apologize that you don't have a sense of humor. But that is not my problem. In fact I probably recieved more acutal flames out of that than robbie did.

If you dont' understand the situation TO ITS FULLEST! Then stay out of it. No one mentioned your name at all. Yet you felt the need to get into it. Like I said. If you don't like the way I am handling this. Tell phil to take away my powers. If he really felt it is nessesary he would have. ANd I will give them up. All of this could ahve been avoided had certain people done their jobs.