Who is to blame....9/11 Conspiracies

I started this to get opinions. I in every way respect the events of 9/11. And i most certainly in no way would disrespect those who died.

But when you start to dig.....i found things to be a bit peculiar.

Pentagon- When the plane hit, why was there nothing left??? The engines were 6 tons of steel and titanium a piece. Then other pieces of the plane as well. So how did a plane of the size reported vanish?

The explaination was that the immense heat from the jet fuel incinerated it. Well the temp of jet fuel was not hotter then that of the melting point for titanium (engines)....so where did they go?

In the minutes following the attack, the FBI confiscated from nearby businesses video recordings that might have captured the attack. In contrast to the well-documented tower crashes and collapses in Manhattan, the story of Flight 77 crashing into the Pentagon had no corroborating pictures, only eyewitness accounts and photos of the building's damaged facade.

Weird the twin towers which i believe were terrorist actions were publicized.

But an attack on the pentagon was confiscated and only five frames released?

Strange.


The events of 9/11 are tragic, saddening, and far from anything that we expected. Though when the facts are layed out some things that happened that day are a bit off. Pentagon being one.

Discuss

http://www.oznium.com/forum/topic9022

McCook covered it all a few dead links but some searching will help you look deeper Robbie beyond a movie on Youtube/Google.

^^ Sorry i don't bring 2 yr old threads back from the dead

I only wanted to address the pentagon

You are right.

http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm

go to the bottom please explain the pics

or this site

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1

or even this pic



or this lil one

it could have been either way.
a really thoughtout cover-up or just an attack via planes. we really will never know, but we only have the information at hand.

believe what you want.

And I quote myself,

TRogers wrote:

Conspiracy theories make me chuckle. I can't believe people actually fall for that stuff My aunt is that way though, she's always getting super anxious over the next theory. She hates telling me about it because I just let it in one ear and out the other and I always say "Wow, that's crazy" and go on with my day. That's my plan though...eventually she'll quit telling me about stupid fictional conspiracies.

The worst things were:

FAA were asleep or didn't alert anyone when the planes were WAY off course.

And that out of the 12 Hi-Jackers named that 4 are still alive?? Weird...

So if the plane never hit the pentagon then all the passengers of that flight are being held somewhere and all the families think they are dead. Yeah I bet

Or they were all paid ONE MILLION DOLLARS *hold pinky to lip* to be quiet. That's why our country is in debt!

Whose responsible for hitting the towers?

Terrorist

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But is a terrorist really a terrorist, or a paid government employee with no heart and ice in their veins sent out to cut mankind down so we can grow again, with the hope of growing stronger the next time.


Like an iguana losing it's tail.


Conspiracy!!

Hundreds of eyewitnesses saw a plane hit, airplane debris was scattered all over the pentagon lawn immediately after the crash, and the Black Bowes were found.

Sounds like a plane crash to me.

Drifting10 wrote:

or this site http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1 or even this pic

That post pretty much lays everything out there, that and the Popular Mechanics article that was posted in the other thread, they are really hard to refute.

I think that it was all a conspiracy, done with a master design and with lots of planning. It was executed with military precision.

The terrorists (whatever group that may be) conspired to cause panic and fear in our society, and they planned, trained, and did what needed to be done to achieve their goal.

The worst part in the whole mess is that the succeeded...

In Germany where I'm stationed.... you have to have a damn good reason NOT to have to serve in the military. All males serve unless they are in school or have a valid reason. I guarantee that if that were in effect for the US, none of those planes would have reached their destinations.

Of the people here, how many have read the 9/11 report documenting all the information regarding the day? And after reading that (I doubt anyone has.... the only reason I have is because I was deployed to Iraq with nothing better to do) do you STILL believe its a conspiracy or random acts combined together that cause a massive tradegy?

I think we should all blame KYLE!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_of_the_Urinal_Deuce

lol ^^^

You guys make yourself look like **** tools believing the conspiracy. I'm not a fan of Clinton, but when he was campaining for his wife, someone said uncover the 9/11 conspiracy. He replied "your making us look like idiots." I'm just saying, most people that believe it was a conspiracy are for obama/democrat, so take the words of a past leader....

Fold the dollar bill in half! You'll find out this was planned from the day currency was created!!!111!!!!11!!!

Who has seen the South Park episode about the conspiracy? I think it's pretty possible now that I look back on that episode.

Ryan88 wrote:

You guys make yourself look like **** tools believing the conspiracy. I'm not a fan of Clinton, but when he was campaining for his wife, someone said uncover the 9/11 conspiracy. He replied "your making us look like idiots." I'm just saying, most people that believe it was a conspiracy are for obama/democrat, so take the words of a past leader....

werd.

Knox wrote:

Fold the dollar bill in half! You'll find out this was planned from the day currency was created!!!111!!!!11!!!

Hot dog or hamburg?

Korn is to blame!

And the Oblisk (all seeing eye) was put on the Dollar bill by the freemasons.

Losing quickly wrote:

Korn is to blame!

SILENCE!!


I kill you.

*Runs with cookie dough bites*

kornholio788 wrote:

Losing quickly wrote: Korn is to blame! SILENCE!! I kill you.

your not Achmed...

nice try tho.

zanson wrote:

kornholio788 wrote: Losing quickly wrote: Korn is to blame! SILENCE!! I kill you. your not Achmed... nice try tho.

Was wondering how long it would take.

kornholio788 wrote:

^^Thats legit too. Grab a new 20 and try it. Scary how close it is I know.

i really don't feel like debating this had to in school in every class. but i don't believe the conspiracy crap.

Moss wrote:

Who has seen the South Park episode about the conspiracy? I think it's pretty possible now that I look back on that episode.

Mr. Garrison wrote:

Who took a dookee in the urinal?!

CIA had intelligence of a known "terroist" getting flying lessons in i think colorado. it was reported, but because of all the red tape it never got to the right people and nothing was done.

i dont see that in many news articials but i know its a fact.

9/11 conspiracy fails. This thread fails.

I'm unwilling to say that there was definitely a conspiracy on the part of the US government or any other organization, but I -will- say I've seen and read compelling data that doesn't seem to mesh with the official account of the events on 9/11 . Given the seriousness of the incident and the potential implications if it were a conspiracy, I think the data should be further scrutinized by people with the education and access to do more than just conjecture about it .

I came across a latin expression online the other day, 'cui prodest' or 'for whom it advances' . Its a term in law meant to figuratively express that the one who gains or advances most from a crime is often the one who commits it . Personally I feel that 9/11 was -hugely- beneficial to the Bush administration and allowed them to cow the American people into both giving up domestic rights and supporting foreign military action that would've been almost unthinkable before the twin towers were attacked . Not to mention channeling untold billions of our tax dollars through a foreign campaign and back into their own personal interests .

Maybe I have a preexisting distrust of the government (particularly the current administration) that makes me biased . I'd certainly like to believe we're represented at the highest levels by elected officials with incredible strength of character and strong moral fortitude, but with disappointment I just can't make myself believe that . There are some corrupt people in the world, and some of those people are our leaders . Corrupt enough to take out the towers ? Wish I knew one way or another .

this has been reviewed a billion times with people all over the world... Bush fails.

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I like how my title was changed. The gods have had their way.


I wasn't even told fail!!

kornholio788 wrote:

Ryan88 wrote: You guys make yourself look like **** tools believing the conspiracy. I'm not a fan of Clinton, but when he was campaining for his wife, someone said uncover the 9/11 conspiracy. He replied "your making us look like idiots." I'm just saying, most people that believe it was a conspiracy are for obama/democrat, so take the words of a past leader.... werd.

I hate the whole idea that a bunch of idiots think that the president or our government killed innocent people for a war in iraq or oil or whatever they believe.
Conspiracy theorists can suck it.
Ever seen the falling man picture. im sure that was just some doll thrown out of the window.
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My thread had nothing to do with the towers **** tools jesus