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Wootzah

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Post Thu Mar 11, 2004 12:12 am

i would like to buy some neons for cheep. hopefully a nice UB kit. mainly in white, purple, blue or red. i will be paying through paypal.

Jsw
Aken

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Post Thu Mar 11, 2004 12:14 am

Mind editing out the sentence in your sig?
Wootzah

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Post Thu Mar 11, 2004 12:17 am

better? i wasn't trying to be offensive or anything. just thought it was kinda funny. thats all.
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Post Thu Mar 11, 2004 12:48 am

Quite alright. Danke icon_smile.gif
Wootzah

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Post Thu Mar 11, 2004 2:19 am

hey, no prob! any time! icon_biggrin.gif
Phil
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Post Thu Mar 11, 2004 7:27 am

I hate PayPal.
ADDICTED2ICELED

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Post Thu Mar 11, 2004 7:31 am

Phil wrote:
I hate PayPal.


why?
Phil
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Post Thu Mar 11, 2004 4:56 pm

They are expensive, slow, big, corrupt. They are badddddd.
brett_jeep17

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Post Thu Mar 11, 2004 5:07 pm

damn i use paypal icon_eek.gif
Aken

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Post Thu Mar 11, 2004 5:24 pm

PayPal is bad for business. It's fine for personal use.
DragonJeep

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Post Thu Mar 11, 2004 6:19 pm

Aken wrote:
PayPal is bad for business. It's fine for personal use.
mwc1

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Post Thu Mar 11, 2004 6:46 pm

paypal Suck!.... get real money!

i got a SG GS UB kit...it has 2 green and 2 purple..one green 30in one purple 30 in. and one greeen and one purple side tube
DragonJeep

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Post Thu Mar 11, 2004 7:06 pm

I wasnt aware that PayPal dealt with fake money icon_eek.gif
mwc1

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Post Thu Mar 11, 2004 8:06 pm

paypal = credit card...pretty much fake money.
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Post Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:29 pm

PayPal takes money directly out of my checking account...I would hardly qualify that as a credit card, or fake money.
Goph

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Post Fri Mar 12, 2004 10:26 pm

the fees for paypal are very high.
Phil
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Post Fri Mar 12, 2004 11:03 pm

No it is not good for personal use either.

What if you are selling an electronic item such as a cell phone on eBay.

You sell it for $250 and ship it to a someone in the Bronx who just paid with paypal.

You go to the post office the next morning and mail it to him.

A day later, you get an email from paypal that starts out like this:
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Dear Phil,

We have just been informed that you have received funds from
an account with reports of fraudulent credit card use.


You try to contact the person and they say they don't know what is going on. You don't have a phone number or anything...

You are out $250

The problem with Paypal is that they keep too much of the buyers information hidden. They say either unverified address or verified, but they will not give any more information that that. They don't give the buyer's phone number or anything.

With paypal, I was victim to quite a few chargebacks when selling things. Now on Oznium, accepting credit cards directly, I still have a fair amount of stolen credit card people trying to buy stuff, but I am able to use quite a few methods to catch them and never send the products.

In the past year, there was only one "close call" with a stolen credit card on Oznium. An LED underbody kit was sent out, a few days later I recieved a call from a lady who said she never heard of Oznium and never placed and order. She was in a different state than the address I shipped to. I immediately called the local police in the town I shipped to and alerted them that a package would be delivered on a certain date to a certain address. Since fedex was unable to return the package for some reason, a police officer went to the house, retrieved the package and mailed it back to me with a prepaid label I gave them.

I was out maybe $30 in shipping, which was not much compared to the price of the underbody kit. The lady's credit card was also refunded the full amount. She was advised to get a new credit card number.

In the past year, there have been about 15 stolen credit card order attempts, and only one has been shipped, but it was recovered.

If I was using Paypal, there would be at least 15 stolen credit card orders that were shipped and not recoverable because of paypal's slow and information withholding system.

I believe the main problems with paypal come down to the fact they are not a bank, they are not FDIC insured, at any time they could decided to "go out of business" and keep everyone's money.

Well, in the begining when they did $10 account signup bonuses, and then moved to $5 bonuses, I made well over $300 from that icon_wink.gif
Brandon

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Post Fri Mar 12, 2004 11:26 pm

Phil, you are my idol. You have to be making a lot of money. I wish ran a business icon_lol.gif
Goph

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Post Sat Mar 13, 2004 12:34 am

Brandon wrote:
Phil, you are my idol. You have to be making a lot of money. I wish ran a business icon_lol.gif


yea, and all of use help make him rich.
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Post Sat Mar 13, 2004 12:38 am

Ignore Brandon - he's drunk tonight. silly.gif
DragonJeep

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Post Sat Mar 13, 2004 12:58 am

Yes, we all have contributed to him bringing new products at great prices... and the occasional spinner biglaugh.gif
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Post Sat Mar 13, 2004 2:03 pm

Aken wrote:
Ignore Brandon - he's drunk tonight. silly.gif


yah I played the "Mizzou vs KU drinking game" that I invented... Everytime we **** up, I take a drink.... I went through 8 beers b/c we blew a 12pt lead and never cameback icon_sad.gif

needless to say we're out of the tournament
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