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04yellowf150
Joined: Feb 11 2006 Posts: 1264 Location: West Virginia 2004 Ford F-Series Pickup Last updated: 12/28/08 |
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strobe effect
alot more expansion( i.e- those with trucks) a flexable version of the "tube" that can still hook to the ecu scanner option sd card or usb option for total customization thats all i can think of right now |
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NEUROMODS
Joined: Feb 15 2009 Posts: 46 Location: Japan |
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I'm in Japan, so not a problem. Some police care, most really don't. It's supposed to be illegal here but police don't force it because many younger kids have some kinda weird flashing lights on their cars. I never been pulled over for it.
Anyways, I just think normal remote kits have been out for years. It's kinda an old technology. Voice activated or something else would be cool. |
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Cooper
Joined: Mar 19 2006 Posts: 1576 |
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I saw this topic and just wanted to weigh in.. forgive me for not reading the already overwhelmingly long list of previous replies .
The Inferno and v2 are solid products, there is no need to invest in the design and commit to a manufacturing run of a brand new product just to tweak some minor design issues with these kits . If you're going to build a v3, KILL ICELED . The fact that Ice is in any way a superior product to the v2 is ridiculous considering how long its been on the market and how long ago it was designed . I know the cost is much higher . Fine . Put out a more expensive v3 . You don't need to pace the cost of the v2; you already have a solid product in that price point . ICELED isn't ahead of you in functionality, displays, tube quality, LED brightness.. the only thing they're still rocking is the quality of the microcontroller, and I can't imagine this single piece will add hundreds of dollars to each unit . Focus on the controller functionality, expandability, and microcontroller quality, and you'll have a product that will dominate the competition . Also, to say that you folks at Oz have better customer service then ICE is a laughable understatement to anyone who's dealt with both companies . You're definitely at the top of the market where that's concerned . |
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alkatmsu
Joined: Nov 08 2005 Posts: 1480 Location: Kentucky 1998 Chevrolet Cavalier Last updated: 02/10/08 2007 Ford Fusion Last updated: 08/31/09 |
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I've skimmed through the thread, and am going to offer a few suggestions of my own based on what I've been reading (keep in mind I have never owned a UB kit, so my suggestions may be meaningless).
The first post mentioned making a v3 barebones kit. I think that's a bad idea. If your version numbers are going up, so should the featureset. With all the complaints about the older models, perhaps a retool of all of them should be planned, if not right away, then long-term. V1: Single color,no patterns, remote is an on/off button only, no display. V2: Seven color, static/color change patterns only, slightly better remote & display V3: Million color ICE killer Possibly name the V1.1, 2.1, etc, to differentiate from the original kits to the renamed, upgraded ones. The V2 and V3 could even share the same tubes, with different ECUs, that way if someone buys a V2 and wants to upgrade later on, they can just buy the V3 ECU instead of a whole new kit. The V1 should be a super cheap kit and I don't know if it'd be more cost effective to still use the multi-color tubes with it, but if it is, do it! It'd save a lot on warehouse space, inventory, etc, to have all the Oz brand kits using the same tubes/connections. As far as the V3, my one suggestion is this: if there's going to be software for it, with USB/bluetooth hookups, etc, there needs to be a way for the users to share their patterns with other users on the fly. I'm picturing a group of people with this kit. Person 1 has an awesome custom pattern that people 2-4 love. They can pass around a USB drive or memory card and get person 1's pattern on their kits. OR, if the kits are going to be bluetooth enabled anyway, maybe figure out some way that kits across multiple cars can be shared AND synchronized. That would turn heads at a car show! |
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NEUROMODS
Joined: Feb 15 2009 Posts: 46 Location: Japan |
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Why not have them be able to share the patterns right here on this website. Users login, see a video or pictures of another users pattern and can download it to use on their kit. Would be great and the first ever!
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alkatmsu
Joined: Nov 08 2005 Posts: 1480 Location: Kentucky 1998 Chevrolet Cavalier Last updated: 02/10/08 2007 Ford Fusion Last updated: 08/31/09 |
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That would be awesome, and would certainly ensure that the website/forum gets more hits.
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kramer13
Joined: Jun 20 2004 Posts: 3222 Location: Seattle, WA 1989 Chevrolet Blazer Last updated: 02/21/06 |
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update?
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Focal Fury
Joined: Jan 18 2005 Posts: 465 |
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this is what ive had in mind if it all goes to plan we have a sperate section on teh forum for V3 discussion...sharing of patterns...help programing etc etc |
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NEUROMODS
Joined: Feb 15 2009 Posts: 46 Location: Japan |
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Yep, I was thinking of that and would be cool to see what kinda patterns users can come up with. Total control over your underbody kit and share your patterns to others.
Something else I would love to see is a scanner, knight rider style. So you could control each tube to scan the color you want with a trailing effect. |
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Kingandsons07
Joined: Sep 04 2008 Posts: 8 Location: Lincoln, NE 2002 Ford Explorer Last updated: 09/04/08 |
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this sounds great hope it works out
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Highland J
Joined: Sep 08 2006 Posts: 657 Location: ND, Land of the covered wagons and wheat. 2003 Toyota Highlander Last updated: 09/14/08 |
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Lovin the ideas! Gunna have to buy one in like 5 yrs when its built
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Blazin'88Buick
Joined: Jun 11 2006 Posts: 67 1988 Buick Park Avenue Last updated: 06/16/06 |
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I don't know about anyone else but what I would like to see is a multiple color underbody like with RGB plus some of the LEDs should be White. Also the whole kit should use tightly spaced Superflux LEDs for extreme brightness. I don't know if this post will help the development of a new kit but I thought it was worth my two cents. Thanks Phil and the whole Oznium team.
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bryanw0087
Joined: Jul 23 2009 Posts: 7 Location: Knox, Pennsylvania :( |
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i see you running into countless problems with an "endless glow" kit, it would also be cool if when you create a kit as good as ICELED or even superior that the price isnt 900 but stays low and affordable (as possible) therefore getting alot more buyers... would also be cool if somehow you made extension kits, such as making it somehow that the v1 or v2 that you already have can connect into the new ecu so you wouldnt have to buy a whole new kit if you still have one that works just fine.
as for the oznium staff i have to say i had a few things go wrong with my kit, but they shipped me replacement parts fast and at no cost so it definately still makes me feel like they care about the little guy! a remote that you dont have to stand 3 feet away to change what the car is doing. i like the computer program idea, or at least make it soo you can set each individual tube to what ever colors you want. say you want one tube blue and red, one tube green and pink, one tube orange and white , and one just yellow... or anything similar to that, where you can se the tubes to whatever color /colors you want and any combination there of, brighter is always better and more patterns / strobe effects also are a must. while also considering the cost of the kit stays down. with the economy and also these kits appeal more to the younger crowd its important they dont break the bank! or be completely unaffordable try to stay below 400 if possible.. also make it so you could have multiple colors at a time on constant, while having other multiple colors chasing around, (instead of having red glow and green going in the chase patter around being able to program so there could be red green and blue on constant and orange white and yellow that go around as a pattern) and make it so you can customize all those colors as well to what you want. |
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NEUROMODS
Joined: Feb 15 2009 Posts: 46 Location: Japan |
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How is this project coming along?
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Phil
Owner, Oznium.com Joined: Feb 11 2003 Posts: 7134 Location: Bay Area, CA 2001 Toyota Highlander Last updated: 08/02/08 2000 Toyota 4Runner Last updated: 05/28/07 2006 Scion tC Last updated: 11/12/07 2002 GMC Sierra Last updated: 08/02/08 |
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Nothing happening right now
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NEUROMODS
Joined: Feb 15 2009 Posts: 46 Location: Japan |
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Ahh, gonna take a couple of years hmm?
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kramer13
Joined: Jun 20 2004 Posts: 3222 Location: Seattle, WA 1989 Chevrolet Blazer Last updated: 02/21/06 |
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yeah 3, 4 tops
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pgiordano
Joined: Nov 13 2008 Posts: 293 |
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weeks or years?...lol |
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Tim
Joined: Nov 16 2003 Posts: 9930 Location: Kalamazoo, MI 1998 Pontiac Grand Am Last updated: 03/11/07 |
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Years
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NEUROMODS
Joined: Feb 15 2009 Posts: 46 Location: Japan |
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That sucks, but I can live with my Inferno V2 till then!
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Focal Fury
Joined: Jan 18 2005 Posts: 465 |
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PAY no attention to the man behind the curtain things are developing nothing concrete but ideas and protocols and figuring out how it can be accomplished gathering components necessary |
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Phoenix
Joined: Aug 08 2008 Posts: 19 Location: North East Ohio |
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Seal the tubes. Condensation seemed to be an issue with some of the V2 tubes.
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eric-s
Joined: Aug 07 2006 Posts: 77 Location: Austin,TX |
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so ive been doin more research on expandability for multi color glow kits and found 1 similar to features suggested. its called the ledglows advanced 3millioncolor usb underglow kit found at ledunderbody.com. in looks to comparing to the iceled you have longer wire [19ft], u can control each tube at once, iceled only spreads 70degrees while this kit spreads 270degrees with 610 leds and retails for half the price of the iceled ufo kit including the led advanced 3million color usb wheel well kit. maybe design the v3 around these specs?
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Black DX
Joined: Oct 16 2007 Posts: 942 1996 Honda Civic Last updated: 01/29/09 2007 Honda CBR 600 Last updated: 07/16/09 |
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180* is a half circle so some how their kit with 270* does a 3/4 ciricle?... I've looked at the ledunderbody kits before and even figured on being a guinea pig and reporting on them ( I like the USB idea) but if you miss that lil marketing b-s than you've missed the point of everything and this post. 270* is probably the viewing angle of the color group (red, green and blue) added together (since ledunderbody isn't using superflux chips) so if equal they're each viewing angle is 90* which isn't far from what ICELED is using. Also more led's is good but having a controller that can work them is better, it's the controller that will make the difference between blocky color zones and smooth ones...
The V1 and V2 as well as ICELED's have the main ECU transmitting data to each tube so it's not a new idea for Oz. ICELED and the inferno V2 use 3 wire systems (pos, neg and data) which can be extended almost for ever to a point, now the V1 is limited in length by it's connectors the same as the USB cables but they're both using standard type connectors that wouldn't be hard to add extension cables to... This post is filled with people commenting on ideas and such, the idea for V3 is to improve on the V2 and it's weaknesses... |
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eric-s
Joined: Aug 07 2006 Posts: 77 Location: Austin,TX |
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right black i couldnt agree more but thats the first usb kit ive found available and i was hoping oznium could come out with a usb superflux million color kit while maintaining and improving features from the v2 for the v3 btw ledglow kits come with key chain remotes *hint hint*
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kramer13
Joined: Jun 20 2004 Posts: 3222 Location: Seattle, WA 1989 Chevrolet Blazer Last updated: 02/21/06 |
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update?
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Kingandsons07
Joined: Sep 04 2008 Posts: 8 Location: Lincoln, NE 2002 Ford Explorer Last updated: 09/04/08 |
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yeah is this coming out soon?
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kramer13
Joined: Jun 20 2004 Posts: 3222 Location: Seattle, WA 1989 Chevrolet Blazer Last updated: 02/21/06 |
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Not even. |
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bad venge
Joined: Jul 28 2007 Posts: 1602 1998 Dodge Avenger Last updated: 05/18/09 |
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Soon as they , design , build ,prototype , redesign , reprototype, fix bugs and then send out to be produced.... maybe next week
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Kingandsons07
Joined: Sep 04 2008 Posts: 8 Location: Lincoln, NE 2002 Ford Explorer Last updated: 09/04/08 |
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lol its just be nice to get an eta on it
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09MitsuLancer
Joined: Sep 06 2009 Posts: 25 |
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just to be on the safe side i would say around by the year 2165 it should be out! Hopefully i'm safe in assuming that.
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Phil
Owner, Oznium.com Joined: Feb 11 2003 Posts: 7134 Location: Bay Area, CA 2001 Toyota Highlander Last updated: 08/02/08 2000 Toyota 4Runner Last updated: 05/28/07 2006 Scion tC Last updated: 11/12/07 2002 GMC Sierra Last updated: 08/02/08 |
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Appreciate all the interest guys.
Unfortunately no active plans to build it now. I don't think the market can support a high end underbody kit like this. Locking thread for now. |