Inferno V3 discussion

every single exposed input/output should have reverse-voltage/over-voltage/short-circuit protection

What would be even nicer is knowing the pattern codes so I could create a program for apple/windows for use via bluetooth on a cell phone...


to control colors and zones!

Would be awesome! No longer lose your remote! And you can create custom colors on your cell phone as well as your computer! schweet ;)


I knwo the sequences cannot be that hard to learn and figure out... a bunch of different ons and ofs and if this else that

depends on what code you want vb/c#/asp... I can do it all ;) heh

Wouldn't be to hard to create either!


Damn kris you struck an idea!!


Bluetooth for the mother fu win!

I'd rather see an expanded selection of linkable parts like IceLed has. The ability for these products (either 6" or 1ft tubes) to CONTINUE patterns, not just the Last pixel.

More expandibility for the v1 or v2.

alienyoungjr wrote:

every single exposed input/output should have reverse-voltage/over-voltage/short-circuit protection

+1 Internets for you sir. This goes hand in hand with the ECU fuse holster.

thesull wrote:

I knwo the sequences cannot be that hard to learn and figure out... a bunch of different ons and ofs and if this else that depends on what code you want vb/c#/asp... I can do it all ;) heh Wouldn't be to hard to create either! Damn kris you struck an idea!! Bluetooth for the mother fu win!

+1. I could code this in VB6, let alone VB.net for Windows based mobile operating systems in a heartbeat. It's all just I/O functions. Very simple, sounds more complicated than it is. I setup a similiar setup at a datacenter I used to work at, toggling the reset switches on 500+ servers. Set it up with breadboards Saved us thousands on KVM switches.

BlueTooth controller + Handheld bluetooth device = Epic advancement / win.

Now just to get it all figured out. Good thing I'm on iPhone 3.0 software / have an SDK account. Time to get on the horn with Shenzhen!

Yea it wouldn't be hard at all really... just a little trial and error and bam! I would be on a roll...

Lets make some If statements together hehe

If this else that end if = to hehe

OzV3Button1 = BadARSE Mode
OzV3Button2 = BadderARSE Mode
End If(Battery.Dead)
'These modes will drain batteries.

heh

Would be fun honestly to code it via and use it bluetooth... think of the possibilities... I did a small program using a USB cord to control my homemade robot... it was or my graduate program I am still in 3 years later ;(

ok some ideas since i love playing with the patterns...

for music modes, let it randomly dance throught not only color but patterns and anyhting else.

STROBE... need i say more?

using a single led with all 3 colors would give a much better pattern.

USB hookup to PC and to the lcd display would be awesome.

PC hookup can allow you to edit patterns and colors easily (even if you dont make the program im sure we can start an open source program to do everything. even on the fly changing and controling for people like me that have a car PC. would be amazing.)

definately make a converter for RGB outs so people can use and make their own tubes. (common negitive or something like that)

expandable so multiple ECU's can talk to each other.

expandable tuibes to continue patterns not just last pixil.

if i have more ideas i'll post em. but def using usb and known technologies and standards for lighting control would make expanding and customizing this a lot better.

thesull wrote:

Yea it wouldn't be hard at all really... just a little trial and error and bam! I would be on a roll... Lets make some If statements together hehe If this else that end if = to hehe OzV3Button1 = BadARSE Mode OzV3Button2 = BadderARSE Mode End If(Battery.Dead) 'These modes will drain batteries. heh Would be fun honestly to code it via and use it bluetooth... think of the possibilities... I did a small program using a USB cord to control my homemade robot... it was or my graduate program I am still in 3 years later ;(

Little update from: End If(Battery.Dead)


Private Sub VoltageCheck()
Dim VoltOKLow as Integer
Dim VoltOKHigh as Integer
Dim VoltLow as Integer
Dim VoltHigh as Integer

VoltOKLow = 11.8
VoltOKHigh = 15.0
VoltLow = 10.0
VoltHigh = 15.1

If System.Voltage < VoltLow or System.Voltage > VoltHigh Then
DisplayMsg "Voltage Protection Enabled"
SystemShutdown()

Else If VoltOKLow < System.Voltage < VoltOKHigh Then
DisplayMsg "Voltage OK"

End



EDIT:Hopefully up to par now...

mmMmm I miss programming.

Used to exploit FormMails back in the day, using Multisocket Winsock VB6 programs I made to 'mass mail' as a wee teen for cash An ECU program for this would be clockwork. Now just to port it from VBcode -> the 8086 chip or whatever's on board.

zanson wrote:

USB hookup to PC and to the lcd display would be awesome. PC hookup can allow you to edit patterns and colors easily (even if you dont make the program im sure we can start an open source program to do everything. even on the fly changing and controling for people like me that have a car PC. would be amazing.)

You know us. I'm already thinking of how I'd code this in both a PC and Mac setting. We'd definitely keep it open source, as that's the Oz spirit. I'm definitely going to look into getting it USB enabled for flashing / creating custom programs.

If we made a custom DMX style program capability, Oznium would of course help develop it, take input from the community, SourceForge / open source it, and make sure it's done right.

I think we're getting somewhere here!

And while the LCD display might not be fancy (want to keep costs down) I would look for something where you can at least read messages from the display 'Voltage Protection Enabled', etc. No more D9 R4, etc. I'll also work as much as I can with the company in developing the firmware for the V3.

Hahahaha

You went as far as setting them as integers! haha


Now you know we are geeky...
But you didn't finish the then statement... what about your If or Else?


Yea I have not used the ROM type program since I was a wee kid... and yes I did the cash things too ;) hehe I mas bomb'd forums and e-mails hell .02 a click ;) heh

When yahoo and hotmail were the only e-mails really ;) heh


Now are they using what chipset tho? PROM/ROM/EPROM... A little more info to the exact chipset and configuration ;)

I have a couple of the tuner based readers so I can flash tune the ROMs for Car ECUs... Hrmm.... my mind is wandering now ;) I need to decompile the tuning software and see the read/write structure ;)

Kris wrote:

Private Sub VoltageCheck() Dim VoltOKLow as Integer Dim VoltOKHigh as Integer Dim VoltLow as Integer Dim VoltHigh as Integer VoltOKLow = 11.8 VoltOKHigh = 15.0 VoltLow = 10.0 VoltHigh = 15.1 If System.Voltage < VoltLow or System.Voltage > VoltHigh Then DisplayMsg "Voltage Protection Enabled" SystemShutdown() Else If VoltOKLow < System.Voltage < VoltOKHigh Then DisplayMsg "Voltage OK" End EDIT:Hopefully up to par now...

EDIT: I should have used constants... Sigh.

hahahaha

To funny! I was just pulling your leg... I just am so use to the graduate program and basic little errors pop out at me. was a TA for a couple semesters to get 50% tuition...

OMG and you went as far as setting the variables hahahaha



Now the state doesn't do that anymore ;( cutbacks suck



Oh and I just found a forum for programming 8051 chips hahahahaha

They have a whole forum! And I researched a little there and they have used Bluetooth to turn lights on in the house!! Hell yea ;) A step in the right direction quickly!

http://www.8051projects.info/forum/default.asp

hahahaha

*Woooaaahhh, we're halfway there...*

They like LEDs too ;)

http://www.8051projects.info/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=390

Ninja Edit:
Found it!!!!! BLUETOOTH CONTROL -> HAND TO FACE -> HELL YEA
http://www.8051projects.info/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=820

The display I was talking about.

Kinda sad actually I get excited about electronics I feel like a nerd...


I figured as much! It would be nice to use that display with basic back lighting...

Did you see the bluetooth post above???

alienyoungjr wrote:

one company already tried that, and it backfired on them. look into color-morphics. it was a kit that used one long hook up. they failed cause they sold them only in one foot tubes so you had to daisy chain all of them. you could do better than that, but you will increase parts so the tubes can continue the transmission of data to the next tube.

Wasn't the Colorstorm the same idea ??? 18" tubes all the way around

How about adding sets of Zenon strobes built into the tubes ???
I have the Redline undercar strobe kit beside the other kit and love the look of bright white strobes throughout the patterns

The idea of tubes going all the way around would be great
perhaps we would come up with basic and advanced kits
basic is just the normal 4 tubes
advanced is 4 tubes + 4x 2' flex tubes for wheel well.
extra 2'tubes would be available to connect to other tubes for maximum coverage.

Each tube could benefit from having connectors on each end I think through to 'lengthen tube'

How about....putting your money into a savings account instead of spending $600+ on LEDs that you will get sick of in three years when you graduate high school and realize how expensive the real world is?

Tim....

I live in the real world?

I spend my money how I please ;) Plus I have ruts and high points all year long ;) I may own a couple little self start ups here and there but I always keep a part time job to keep some spending cash in my pockets ;)

But i I want something I want it... simply put ;)

Seriously, fet the F out of the thread if your not going to be helpful or productive...

I actually think your are being negative in remarks towards oznium in that regard...

Thanks deputy Dan.

Tim wrote:

How about....putting your money into a savings account instead of spending $600+ on LEDs that you will get sick of in three years when you graduate high school and realize how expensive the real world is?

The real world is quite expensive. It's why I give you free hosting every month. Give us a bloody break here Tim. We're into LCD and BlueTooth discussion at this point. Needn't nay say right now.

I'd rather a teenager spend their money on uniquely customizing their car. It gives them something productive to do, gives them electrical knowledge they'll need for the future, and most off can keep them from drinking and drugs on weekends. I feel good going to sleep knowing I sell a product that makes people happy and able to let them express themselves in a very different way. I see no problem with spending money on a bodykit you'll get 3 years+ use out of.

That's just my opinion.

And you know I appreciate the hell outta that.

Especially since I'm not doing a DAMN thing with my site.

BTW...I'm all about the development of new technology. Especially when it involves cool stuff like cell phone controlled LEDs.

Tim wrote:

And you know I appreciate the hell outta that. Especially since I'm not doing a DAMN thing with my site. BTW...I'm all about the development of new technology. Especially when it involves cool stuff like cell phone controlled LEDs.

That would explain the lack of CPU or bandwidth usage.

Read my opinion below, but we aren't selling drugs. We're selling LEDs that make people happy, and better off we're all about client input. Not many companies take this road.

Tim wrote:

Especially since I'm not doing a DAMN thing with my site.

sounds like he wants you to remove his site.

nice way of saying thank you there tim...

Hah, not at all.

The reason I'm not doing a damn thing with it is because every time I think I'm happy with the design, I'll change the entire thing to something else. I think I've gone through 15+ Wordpress themes. Really though, none of this matters. Kris knows I love him for his generosity.

And isn't Fantastico / CPanel lovely for quick re-installs of your sites? I think I've seen about 10 or so of the themes.

So back on topic:

Bluetooth tethered tubes, LCD backlit display, USB firmware flash, where shall we go on from here?

Honestly, I want to start working on a kit with just these options + safety and fuses. No need to over complicate.

Maybe mine will be the V3 Basic. Windows 7 it up...


EDIT: I've decided it will now be V3 Basic and V3 Extreme kit. Can discuss the options of the two.

My V3 basic will be like the v2, with the options I've listed below. Danny's Extreme kit will have the full spectrum. Mine will be more DIY type for expansion, Danny's will have more of a plug and play usability factor.

7-color LCD backlit display?

^More expandibility

Tim wrote:

7-color LCD backlit display?

This , or the one above, with a green backlit will be the standard.

Maybe the one above / green back-lighting for the V3 Basic Kit, 7 Color LCD Display for the Extreme.

USB / etc options as I said above will be standard.

Kris wrote:

And isn't Fantastico / CPanel So back on topic: Bluetooth tethered tubes, LCD backlit display, USB firmware flash, where shall we go on from here? Honestly, I want to start working on a kit with just these options + safety and fuses. No need to over complicate. Maybe mine will be the V3 Basic. Windows 7 it up.

From here I think we should identify the sizes of tubes the kit could utilize.

3' tubes really are the best for the front and back
4-5' Tubes for the sides.
2' Flexible Tubes for gaps, this will work for the wheel well kit and gaps elsewhere.

Each tube should have connectors on each ends.

D A N N Y

I think I will help with the V3 Extreme kit ;) hehe

Both good names...

Bluetooth, LCD, new connectors...

USB based HRM...

If the ROM could pop out easily for faster flashing/fireware that would be AWESOME... I can see endless opportunity for Oz as well as members ;) for making custom flashes!


I am chatting with a couple of the guys on the forums I posted too ;) heh they seem like good guys! One wants to help with the idea I tossed at him ;) I think I may be sending the v2 ecu I have to him to mess with and setup via bluetooth for me ;) hahaha I am taking picture of it now for him and seeing if I can do it before sending it ;)

Seriously though this is going to be a cool project ;)


And having an option to buy a 7-Color LCD panel later as well for basic users...

Use the same ECU for Basic/Extreme

5' tubes would be nice.

Kris wrote:

we aren't selling drugs. We're selling LEDs

at this point, i think there is a very fine line on the difference of the two!

my suggestion for a basic vs extreme kit. make it so anything the extreme kit can do, or comes with "stock" can be added to a basic kit by buying parts. not so the customer has to sell there basic kit and buy an extreme.

if you do it so a basic kit cost $399 and a extreme kit cost $549 people might shy from the extreme kit, but when they realize there is $299 worth of parts to buy the extra tubes, better display, the added usb port for ultimate control... they may just buy the ultimate kit. OR, they will buy the basic as a gift for someone and the person who receives it will spend the extra $299 to make it the ultimate. this way everyone benefits.

kind of like, if i could just buy a V2 ecu, plug it into my V1 tubes and have full V2 abilities.

orangesuburban wrote:

Kris wrote: we aren't selling drugs. We're selling LEDs at this point, i think there is a very fine line on the difference of the two! my suggestion for a basic vs extreme kit. make it so anything the extreme kit can do, or comes with "stock" can be added to a basic kit by buying parts. not so the customer has to sell there basic kit and buy an extreme. if you do it so a basic kit cost $399 and a extreme kit cost $549 people might shy from the extreme kit, but when they realize there is $299 worth of parts to buy the extra tubes, better display, the added usb port for ultimate control... they may just buy the ultimate kit. OR, they will buy the basic as a gift for someone and the person who receives it will spend the extra $299 to make it the ultimate. this way everyone benefits. kind of like, if i could just buy a V2 ecu, plug it into my V1 tubes and have full V2 abilities.

Agreed
I nor Phil has ever been the type that would try and manipulate customers this way...there is no reason.

We will try our best to make these kits upgradable

if i could control it with my carpc that would be cool lol

Tdawgthegreatest wrote:

5' tubes would be nice.

Definitely We just need to factor honestly space and shipping with something like this.
I will ask for 5' when we develop and see what they say