Inferno V3 discussion

bad venge wrote:

alienyoungjr wrote: one company already tried that, and it backfired on them. look into color-morphics. it was a kit that used one long hook up. they failed cause they sold them only in one foot tubes so you had to daisy chain all of them. you could do better than that, but you will increase parts so the tubes can continue the transmission of data to the next tube. Wasn't the Colorstorm the same idea ??? 18" tubes all the way around

yep

I am interested to know how straight tubes on the sides and front and back would connect to the 2 foot tubes filling the glow gap.

If they are all straight and pluggable.......


v3 extreme and basic is a good idea....

yea the LCD screens u showed are awesome, cheap and display a lot of info. i love them.

also, i can help code if this becomes a project. i code a lot in PHP but also have experiance in VB6 for like 5 years lol... would just need to remember the syntax.

we have some great ideas in here, im sure we can come up with a lot of good ideas, and keep the cost low in the process

coolbam wrote:

I am interested to know how straight tubes on the sides and front and back would connect to the 2 foot tubes filling the glow gap. If they are all straight and pluggable....... v3 extreme and basic is a good idea....

A basic idea that I had is basically. (although more complex than just two wires)
is sort of like how we connect our Linear Lights like Piranha Bars and SMD Bars.

It would probably have the same type of connector as the V2 quick disconnects had, or something similar on both ends hopefully.

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with the disconnects could we have them as a socket in the tube? cuz i could see the wire from the tube to the connector getting messed up, and then u have to buy a new tube....

zanson wrote:

with the disconnects could we have them as a socket in the tube? cuz i could see the wire from the tube to the connector getting messed up, and then u have to buy a new tube....

Can you give an example or something I could see that is similar?

something like that...

He is meaning the tube is self reliant... like you plug INTO the tube rather than the tube having a wire coming out

thesull wrote:

He is meaning the tube is self reliant... like you plug INTO the tube rather than the tube having a wire coming out

i would not agree. the extra wire helps absorb vibration, and keeps it away from the tube, and the connection itself.

RGB LCD display Kris:

alienyoungjr wrote:

thesull wrote: He is meaning the tube is self reliant... like you plug INTO the tube rather than the tube having a wire coming out i would not agree. the extra wire helps absorb vibration, and keeps it away from the tube, and the connection itself.

I can see this as well... good point.

There ya go Sull, RGB FTW!

Casted Polycarbonate tube so there aren't any lines in the glow that is directed towards the ground.

Example:

That's harsh cutoff on your side tubes man.

KrzysD wrote:

Casted Polycarbonate tube so there aren't any lines in the glow that is directed towards the ground.

I remember the V1 used to have lines and such but was fixed on the next batch

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O yea, you can see them for sure on the front tube, very obviously.

OK So here is V.01 of the V3

2 Kits
Basic and Extreme
Basic is still being worked on
Please remember this is a rough draft and certain components may not be cost effective and in no way is this representative of the final product


EXTREME
TUBES
4 Tubes just like basic
* Each tube has a male USB 2.0 Mini connector on one side and a female on the opposite.
* 4 to 6 inches of wire extending from each end of tube.
* Fully sealed and waterproofed.
4 Wheel Well Tubes
*Flexible
*2 Feet long
* Each tube has a male USB 2.0 Mini connector on one side and a female on the opposite.
* 4 to 6 inches of wire extending from each end of tube.

1 ECU with 4 zones
*Fully Customizable via computer ...more details need to be figured out
*Standard modes and patterns pre-programmed
*Create your own patterns via Open Source program

1 RGB Color LCD Display Screen
*RGB Display to show actual color that is happening in UB Kit

8 extension cables
***4 Short Cables to go from wheel well Kit to Main Tubes on the side allowing the left wheel well tubes and the Left main tube to be connected in one strand. Same for the right.
***4 Long Cables
*****2 to go from ends of wheel well kit to ECU
*****2 to go from front and rear tubes to ECU
* Extension cables will be used now to eliminate having to cut or splice wires.

LED's
*4-5 chip 5mm LED's
*50 degree viewing angle
*Twice the LED's as the V2...or just a bunch LOL


DISCUSS

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Kris wrote:

LED's *4 chip LED's (SuperFlux or 5/10mm) *120 Degree Wide Vewing angle

I thought the 120 degree viewing was eliminated due to the lose of pattern clarity on high height clearance type vehicle.

I suggest using 5mm, but have three mounted in a wide spread. It will increase the width sidways, but won't expand so far into the enext pixel.

One LED aimed straight down, and two on each side of that aimed 45 degrees from the straight one.

Or just stick with 4-5 chip 5mm for added brightness, but not lose in pattern clarity.

alienyoungjr wrote:

Kris wrote: LED's *4 chip LED's (SuperFlux or 5/10mm) *120 Degree Wide Vewing angle I thought the 120 degree viewing was eliminated due to the lose of pattern clarity on high height clearance type vehicle. I suggest using 5mm, but have three mounted in a wide spread. It will increase the width sidways, but won't expand so far into the enext pixel. One LED aimed straight down, and two on each side of that aimed 45 degrees from the straight one. Or just stick with 4-5 chip 5mm for added brightness, but not lose in pattern clarity.

I think I suggested something like this a while back for the V2 discussion. Have a set of three of these, RGB.

alienyoungjr wrote:

thesull wrote: He is meaning the tube is self reliant... like you plug INTO the tube rather than the tube having a wire coming out i would not agree. the extra wire helps absorb vibration, and keeps it away from the tube, and the connection itself.

...and the short wire makes the tubes able to be used as nun-chucka if needed!

on the wheel well tubes, have them have a longer cable so we dont need an extension cable to plug them into the side tubes. like a 2ft cable so it will make it to the side tube... the less connections the better. IMO.

alienyoungjr wrote:

Kris wrote: LED's *4 chip LED's (SuperFlux or 5/10mm) *120 Degree Wide Vewing angle I thought the 120 degree viewing was eliminated due to the lose of pattern clarity on high height clearance type vehicle. I suggest using 5mm, but have three mounted in a wide spread. It will increase the width sidways, but won't expand so far into the enext pixel. One LED aimed straight down, and two on each side of that aimed 45 degrees from the straight one. Or just stick with 4-5 chip 5mm for added brightness, but not lose in pattern clarity.

I agree with you and Phil agreed that the superflux wouldn't be as effective as a 5mm LED.
I think it is safe to say we won't use Superflux as the viewing angle wont give the crispness we are looking for
thanks for the comments everyone
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Ok so I've been reading several remarks in this thread about using a usb stick to connect to the computer to upload patterns to the kit. I mentioned a while back about the thought of a wireless underglow kit. Well this integration could be perfect if you could create the underglow kit wirelessly via usb and when you want a more custom feel to the kit, take the stick out of the ecu and upload it to the computer, dazzle yourself with how you want the unique glow effect to look and pop the usb back in the ecu and watch what u create, I know its more complex than this but if someone has some feedback to this, please let me know.

eric-s wrote:

Ok so I've been reading several remarks in this thread about using a usb stick to connect to the computer to upload patterns to the kit. I mentioned a while back about the thought of a wireless underglow kit. Well this integration could be perfect if you could create the underglow kit wirelessly via usb and when you want a more custom feel to the kit, take the stick out of the ecu and upload it to the computer, dazzle yourself with how you want the unique glow effect to look and pop the usb back in the ecu and watch what u create, I know its more complex than this but if someone has some feedback to this, please let me know.

Its a good idea but wireless has the capability of failing or being more troublesome
also the cost would get a little to high.

Wireless is obviously great when you CAN'T wire something. This is not the case and would only make the Kit's price increase.

Thank you for the suggestion

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Update: There will be (1) bodykit, and it's all Focalfury's realm now.

a bodykit? Or an underbody kit?

But danny think about the profit if someone could install something twice as easy and not spending hours to drill holes to run wires, the easier something is to use, the more the product will sell ;)

Tim wrote:

a bodykit? Or an underbody kit?

You know what I mean. Keep tossing around and your bandwidth will be dropped to 50MB.

I like the ideas for the V3, but one of my concerns is cost. Approximately how much would this underbody kit run?

Kris wrote:

Tim wrote: a bodykit? Or an underbody kit? You know what I mean. Keep tossing around and your bandwidth will be dropped to 50MB.

Bahaha, come on. I kid, I kid.

Lets talk price.


If this thing brings me ease of use and w/e. Then i'd be willing to go up to $500 - 650 bucks for one.

coolbam wrote:

Lets talk price. If this thing brings me ease of use and w/e. Then i'd be willing to go up to $500 - 650 bucks for one.

While I have no idea what this is going to cost honestly...haven't sourced parts or even thought about that yet.
I wouldn't want this to be 600 I think thats high
Hopefully we can keep this kit around 500 it all just depends on the components/features honestly.
Still looking into the viability of just an upgraded type V2 that is basic and affordable for the casual glower.
We'll see

Thanks all

Ok so I already had this in another thread but was suggested to put it here:


What if you could take charge of your underglow kit completely, there would be no way to select a tube onthe kit and have it where u could be given the freedom to customize a specific section of each tube or each tube alone? Like for example in a million colored kit, such as inferno or iceled, you could link a selection mode to the million colored mode to allow you to change colors/shades of certain sections or the whole tube , just an idea ;)

There was an editing mode with the v2. I never got into it though.

Yes but there were bugs with the v2 so I heard anyways

eric-s wrote:

Ok so I already had this in another thread but was suggested to put it here: What if you could take charge of your underglow kit completely, there would be no way to select a tube onthe kit and have it where u could be given the freedom to customize a specific section of each tube or each tube alone? Like for example in a million colored kit, such as inferno or iceled, you could link a selection mode to the million colored mode to allow you to change colors/shades of certain sections or the whole tube , just an idea ;)

Im confused...what are you asking can you rephrase

Sure focal, what I would like to be able to to do, me personally, I want an underglow where I can have rainbow on all sides but it seems the only way to do that is either have it preset in the settings or do what im talking about
[ooo ooo ooo ooo] <-represents underglow tube if u could control a section of the leds to make whatever kind of crazy gradient you wanted you could, that's basically my suggestion or being able to control one tube at a time, and if being able to control one tube at a time if not able to control a section of leds via [ooo] then have hundereds or thousands of preset gradients you could choose for that tube

Why not go all out? Be the first to offer a voice activated kit? One thing I don't like is driving trying to use a remote when I wanna change the color. I know some will say, stop the car and change it or wait till a red light. But we all know we do it at times while driving. Why not have it respond to your voice? Say red, it goes on a solid red color. Say "my custom" it goes on a pattern you programmed in with your PC. You can control the kit and what you wanna say, to do what you want. That would be high tech and cool.
This would also be good as a fast kill switch, simply say off and it all goe's off fast.
One problem this may face is music may activate it. But you could also have a remote to disable voice and just use the remote. It would be pretty cool to walk up to your car in a parking lot, say ON and the kit lights up and it only reconizes your voice.

You shouldn't be driving with your kit on in the first place

Driving with it on is the best time.