West Allis Court System is ****

Well - today was my 4th appearence in teh West Allis Court System - another hour of my life wasted.

I recieved 3 illegally colored lighting tickets from the city of West Allis, and I have been tyring to get them dropped since. I was pulled over NEAR a popular cruising strip on tehse 3 nights, on my way home from work. Since it was NEAR the strip, and since I am a teen, I am ASSUMED to be cruising. Well anyways, the first 3 times I went in, I said not guilty and bam they give me anothe rcourt date. All 3 times and all 3 dates are different. Whatever, straw 1.

Today was the first of these 3, I was called into the City Attourneys office and she reviewed my ticket. She claimed that since this incident happend ON hwy 100, they couldnt offer me any deals. On HWY 100? Thats ****, since I dont take that route home from work. Uh duh? Si I sat there and argued, and she said that I could fight my case by scheduling another hearing and speak directly at the judge. I asked her why the **** she was wasting my time with all the damned court dates and I ***** adn moaned about the other 2 I had comming up. An officer came in to see what the rutkus was about, and for some reason he felt the need to restrain me.

Well yah, this got no where and it took twice as long as I had expected. So 4 court dates and I still cant do **** about these **** tickets. They are only 70 bones a peice, so I would pay the **** things but at 3 points a pop, **** that. I hate West Allis PD, and even worse their court system. Where the **** can I get a lawyer? I am sick of all this ****...

You need that lawyer from Sienfeld.

Tim wrote:

You need that lawer from Sienfeld.

... or from SouthPark. He could use the Chewbacca Defense.

lol...yeah. Wasn't the guy in Southpark a parody of the guy from Sielfeld?

Idea - dont talk about lame cartoons in one of my threads. Im **** off as it is, dont push my buttons by being post whores.

*whip* Okay Pork.

Idea - Find a lawyer to fight your case? I'm sure there are some in Milwaukee, a city with a population of 900,000+.

I have beeling around - its hard to find any affordable lawyers. Lowest price I have been quoted so far was 500 minimum with no guarentee's...

That's true...good lawyers are expensive. Good luck man...

thats alot of money for a lawyer..have any friends in law school or something?

Did a little poking around today, and didn't find any good news :-(

347.07 Special restrictions on lamps and the use
thereof. (1) Whenever a motor vehicle equipped with headlamps
also is equipped with any adverse weather lamps, spotlamps
or auxiliary lamps, or with any other lamp on the front
thereof projecting a beam of intensity greater than 300 candlepower,
not more than a total of 4 of any such lamps or combinations
thereof on the front of the vehicle shall be lighted at any one
time when such vehicle is upon a highway.
(2) Except as otherwise expressly authorized or required by
this chapter, no person shall operate any vehicle or equipment on
a highway which has displayed thereon:
(a) Any color of light other than white or amber visible from
directly in front; or
(b) Any color of light other than red on the rear; or
(c) Any flashing light.

And it does say it is a 3 point violation. Guess what else is a 3 point violation? Driving with intoxicating substances in the cab. Horse ****.

347.03 Sale of prohibited equipment unlawful. No person
shall sell for highway use any device, appliance, accessory or
replacement part the use of which on a motor vehicle is unlawful.

So wait, can I take this in with me and say if the kits were illegal, then why were they sold to me without warning? Because svc.com says nothing about the lights being illegal - since they are sold for computer use? Eh?

^^^ hmmm... that's an interesting point that would be cool if SVC had to pay for your tickets

porK: Although I am unable to completely understand law book crap, I don't see anything that says you aren't allowed to have lights while not on the highway. And since you weren't ON the highway, how do these apply?

Was your car accually moving when you got the ticket? I've always heard that as long as your not moving, it's okay.

corvettecrazy wrote:

porK: Although I am unable to completely understand law book crap, I don't see anything that says you aren't allowed to have lights while not on the highway. And since you weren't ON the highway, how do these apply?

"Highway" usually means ANY public highway (street).

Highway is a fancy word for road way.

Is there any way you could plea-bargain the points? The fine isn't too bad (yeah, it sucks, but it's easily dealt with), but the points are bad.... I can't believe that neons are equivalent to a DUI! That seems a bit extreme!

If you can't get out of any of this, can you go to a defensive driving class to erase most of the points? In NY, if you go to a course, I think it erase 3 points off your license. I know this isn't the best solution, but it may be a fall-back plan if the judge won't budge.

(Sorry about the humor earlier... )

If I get these points - I am **** for 5 years. I have been looking foward to getting my CDL for almost 4 years now. If I get these points, they will be on my record for the next 5 years of my life. That means my career will be shattered...

You could sell your glow and pay off the judge...

Or pray that they find you not guilty, or let you go, whatever. Sucks they have to make it so hard for us. All we want to do is glow.

I dont copletely think blaiming SVC for not having warnings will work, since they are originally designed for computers and you had to modify it (remove/cut the connectors off) and im pretty sure once you modify there product they are not responsible. Idk this could be coming out of my ass and im tired.

pOrk wrote:

Did a little poking around today, and didn't find any good news :-( 347.07 Special restrictions on lamps and the use thereof. (1) Whenever a motor vehicle equipped with headlamps also is equipped with any adverse weather lamps, spotlamps or auxiliary lamps, or with any other lamp on the front thereof projecting a beam of intensity greater than 300 candlepower, not more than a total of 4 of any such lamps or combinations thereof on the front of the vehicle shall be lighted at any one time when such vehicle is upon a highway.

i know this law.. ive read it alot looking for ways to get out my tickets.. i asked a friend whos a cop and he said this means.. no more than 4 white lights in front of your car..cuz i had 4 clear corners and then my headlights made me have 6 at night.. and ive got pulled over.. so i just put in 2 amber bulbs and it got them off my nuts

I know what it means Jason. If you couldn't figure that out, then your in trouble...

Glowin91Celica wrote:

pOrk wrote: Did a little poking around today, and didn't find any good news :-( 347.07 Special restrictions on lamps and the use thereof. (1) Whenever a motor vehicle equipped with headlamps also is equipped with any adverse weather lamps, spotlamps or auxiliary lamps, or with any other lamp on the front thereof projecting a beam of intensity greater than 300 candlepower, not more than a total of 4 of any such lamps or combinations thereof on the front of the vehicle shall be lighted at any one time when such vehicle is upon a highway. i know this law.. ive read it alot looking for ways to get out my tickets.. i asked a friend whos a cop and he said this means.. no more than 4 white lights in front of your car..

How bright is 300 candlepower? (besides the obvious answer of "300 times as bright as a candle...) How bright are neons? If they are only 299 candlepower, then they should be legal, right?

300 candlepower is not very much at all. Walmart sells 1,000,000 candlepower spotlights...for like $10....

did the officer check the candle power?...if not you could try and say that how did he know they were more then 300 candlepower...i dont kno...just trying to help...sorri pork

Argue you were in a parking lot turning onto a street and you hit them off right when you left the parking lot, (if the cop doesnt show) they may believe you and think the cop saw your lights but wasnt thinking about you turning from a parking lot, perhaps thought you were turning from a street. Second if you were on private property, that citation does not apply. That stupid restaurant has the car ontop of it with colored lights, isnt that the same as your car being in a parking lot or other private property. Also could argue that cops dont always pull people over (cough, me and you driving past what 15 cop cars with my lights on? opps) tell them that only because your car respembles a police car it gets more notice and cops streatch the truth, again go for the private property or stopped on side of road, turned off, then starting moving. Cops are **** asses here, julian just got another one on his Formula...... Well goodluck....

^ Why didn't you walk downstairs and tell me that? lol

Oh yah, old post ;-) And what restaurant are you talking about with the lights on the roof?

UPDATE us porky. Anything different since your last court date.