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IceDog

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Post Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:46 pm

I'm dying for a motorcycle. Over the summer, I plan on working my ass off and raise a few grand. The problem is my dad had this cousin that died from a motorcycle accident. Do you guys suggest anything to say? Or should I just wait till my pop passes on?

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Post Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:48 pm

IceDog wrote:
Or should I just wait till my pop passes on?

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Post Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:53 pm

my dad was hit on one and almost died, i got my liscence for one 10 days later, on the 11th day my dad was back on his, by the 12th he was over it.
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Post Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:15 pm

FatManDan wrote:
IceDog wrote:
Or should I just wait till my pop passes on?

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lol


haha. i tried to put it as nicely as possible.
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Post Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:17 pm

respect your parents wishes.
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Post Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:37 pm

First thing has you dad ever owned a motorcycle. If so it will be a little easier. My dad had a friend die when some old lady pulled out infront of him. Just after i was born my dad sold his motorcycle. He was pretty easy to get to let me have a bike.

One thing i would suggest doing is telling him you will take a motorcycle safty course. Also i found getting a crusier of a sport bike is a big then for parents slower= safer in there eyes. The best thing to do is just sit down and have a talk with them. Agree to wear a helmet and get a good armored jacket.
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Post Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:45 pm

pontiac4evr_14 wrote:
Agree to wear a helmet and get a good armored jacket.


you shouldnt have to agree with this it should be common sence.......
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Post Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:01 pm

FatManDan wrote:
pontiac4evr_14 wrote:
Agree to wear a helmet and get a good armored jacket.


you shouldnt have to agree with this it should be common sence.......


Absolutely. No question about it.

Thank you pontiac4ever, thats great advice. I'll definitely look into those courses. Unfortunately, my dad has not owned a motorcycle. Area 51, no worries. I won't be a pain in the ass about this. But i'll try a little harder before giving up.
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Post Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:30 pm

FatManDan wrote:
pontiac4evr_14 wrote:
Agree to wear a helmet and get a good armored jacket.


you shouldnt have to agree with this it should be common sence.......


not really i use to wear mine all the time but i dont anymore unless im going a long distance. i never wear it in town even thought that is more dangerous. i ride with a group of like 20 guys and only one of them will ever wear a helmet.
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Post Sun Apr 02, 2006 10:02 pm

My mom hates the fact that I have a motorcycle. My dad understands, because he tooled around on dirt bikes and stuff when he was my age.

My money, my decision. Not a whole lot they can do about it.

I also took the MSF class and wear full gear all the time. They know I'm not just being stupid about it (although they don't know about 110 MPH the other day...)
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Post Sun Apr 02, 2006 10:12 pm

This will be very hard. I still owe my dad a few grand from my recent car accident. So I really shouldn't bring this up till I paid him off and I have neough money to buy one. Just wondering, can you guys tell me what are good used brands for great prices. Im looking for something sporty, safe, and sleek? And I would probably only make 3-4 grand tops over the summer after paying off my debt. Am I kidding myself?
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Post Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:43 pm

i think your looking into 5-6 grand for a kinda new good upkept bike.... unless you find a really good deal.

i like GSXR's personally... or R1 or R6 something like that.... no kawi.
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Post Mon Apr 03, 2006 5:02 pm

Don't recommend an R1 to him - that's WAY too much bike.
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Post Mon Apr 03, 2006 5:59 pm

dont start off with an r1 or anything with a lot of power. start slow and light icon_cool.gif
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Post Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:37 pm

buy a beater 300$ one to start
crotch rockets arent the only kind of bikes out there, pOrk got a nice find and made it pimp, you dont need to spend 5-6k
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Post Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:33 pm

ich auch.

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Post Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:07 pm

It's going to get laid over.. not a matter of if but when. I'm in the process of learning myself icon_razz.gif With that in mind, get something cheap and that you wouldn't mind dropping. I'm picking up mine next week, '90 Kawasaki Zephyr 750. Only reason I'm getting something bigger than 400cc (which is what I've come to see is the biggest a begineer should try) is that I don't fit on anything smaller than the Z icon_sad.gif

Take the MSF course, it'll teach you a hell of a lot of stuff that you more than likely won't learn from a friend, etc.

Check craigslist.org and search for motorcycles in your area, that's how I found mine and quite a few potentials - all for under $1600 icon_smile.gif
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Post Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:57 pm

Toastr wrote:
It's going to get laid over.. not a matter of if but when. I'm in the process of learning myself icon_razz.gif With that in mind, get something cheap and that you wouldn't mind dropping. I'm picking up mine next week, '90 Kawasaki Zephyr 750. Only reason I'm getting something bigger than 400cc (which is what I've come to see is the biggest a begineer should try) is that I don't fit on anything smaller than the Z icon_sad.gif

Take the MSF course, it'll teach you a hell of a lot of stuff that you more than likely won't learn from a friend, etc.

Check craigslist.org and search for motorcycles in your area, that's how I found mine and quite a few potentials - all for under $1600 icon_smile.gif


Wow, excellent prices. Thanks a bunch guys. You have answered everything I needed to know.
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Post Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:15 pm

i would recommend something like yamaha yzf-600R or a Suzuki Katana. they are both 600cc bikes but they dont have near as much power at there R6 or GSX-R counter parts.
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Post Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:37 am

i disagree. i think for his first bike he doesnt want a 4 cylinder and he should look into an older 2, less pickup and easy to learn on. all 4 cylinders move, displacement is actually a pretty small factor until you begin to upgrade it and look at insurance, its the type of motor and bike, those are both sport/touring bikes which arent the most amazing things to learn on. for putting around town and not spending over a grand just pick up an old kz440 or something else thats a 2 cylinder bike. the 4 cylinder difference is extreme, i know this because i have owned and riden both and would never really tell someone to start off on a 4 cylinder.
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Post Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:06 am

My mumma still worrys about me on my bike, cause I ride like a maniac. But hell, its all good. My old man bought a bike last summer and I decided it was ***, we needed a cool honda so I bought one. I dont have my lisc yet, but I be riding all over the place anyways
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Post Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:01 pm

just turn 18 and then let your balls drop and then you can have one
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Post Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:34 pm

that was extremely condescending. thank you for being an ass.
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Post Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:18 pm

bahahahah
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Post Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:51 pm

Rags wrote:
i disagree. i think for his first bike he doesnt want a 4 cylinder and he should look into an older 2, less pickup and easy to learn on. all 4 cylinders move, displacement is actually a pretty small factor until you begin to upgrade it and look at insurance, its the type of motor and bike, those are both sport/touring bikes which arent the most amazing things to learn on. for putting around town and not spending over a grand just pick up an old kz440 or something else thats a 2 cylinder bike. the 4 cylinder difference is extreme, i know this because i have owned and riden both and would never really tell someone to start off on a 4 cylinder.


This is not true at all Ducati's are some of the fastest bikes out there and they run on V-twin engines.
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Post Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:06 am

My cousin died in a car crash. I should turn my in. icon_eek.gif

If you are safe and well trained and protected go for it. Just like anything planes, trains, automobiles, snow sports, swimming, surfing, home improvement, hiking, mountain climbing and pretty much any aspect of life there is some risk. But you can do alot to protect your self and control the risks. There will always be things that are far beyond our control but we can not change that.
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Post Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:10 am

Moss wrote:
My cousin died in a car crash. I should turn my in. icon_eek.gif

If you are safe and well trained and protected go for it. Just like anything planes, trains, automobiles, snow sports, swimming, surfing, home improvement, hiking, mountain climbing and pretty much any aspect of life there is some risk. But you can do alot to protect your self and control the risks. There will always be things that are far beyond our control but we can not change that.



That is very true tonight i was in town and heard a page for fire rescue on my ambulance radio and i was going that way so i went to the scene. I ended up helping to cut out and secure to a back board one of my best friends. some car jumped the median and hit them out of no where. and the night before i almost got hit on my bike by some speeding ***** in a neon.
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Post Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:06 am

pontiac4evr_14 wrote:
Rags wrote:
i disagree. i think for his first bike he doesnt want a 4 cylinder and he should look into an older 2, less pickup and easy to learn on. all 4 cylinders move, displacement is actually a pretty small factor until you begin to upgrade it and look at insurance, its the type of motor and bike, those are both sport/touring bikes which arent the most amazing things to learn on. for putting around town and not spending over a grand just pick up an old kz440 or something else thats a 2 cylinder bike. the 4 cylinder difference is extreme, i know this because i have owned and riden both and would never really tell someone to start off on a 4 cylinder.


This is not true at all Ducati's are some of the fastest bikes out there and they run on V-twin engines.


i believe ducatis are v4's and 4 cylinders, and the displacement on most of those bikes is at least 600 which the only motor thats a 2 after 600 usually is a triumph motor or vtwin off a harley. i said he should start off on a 2 cylinder because the difference in acceleration between the two is like 2 different worlds and if he is new it would be wise to begin on something cheap and slow.

edit: even if im wrong on the v twin, thats a completely different 2 cylinder world. that harley in my gallery is a vtwin that does the 10/11 second range on a quarter. but an inline 2 was kinda what i meant originally by a 2 cylinder. but i do believe you are right on the ducati thing.
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Post Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:02 pm

Rags wrote:
pontiac4evr_14 wrote:
Rags wrote:
i disagree. i think for his first bike he doesnt want a 4 cylinder and he should look into an older 2, less pickup and easy to learn on. all 4 cylinders move, displacement is actually a pretty small factor until you begin to upgrade it and look at insurance, its the type of motor and bike, those are both sport/touring bikes which arent the most amazing things to learn on. for putting around town and not spending over a grand just pick up an old kz440 or something else thats a 2 cylinder bike. the 4 cylinder difference is extreme, i know this because i have owned and riden both and would never really tell someone to start off on a 4 cylinder.


This is not true at all Ducati's are some of the fastest bikes out there and they run on V-twin engines.


i believe ducatis are v4's and 4 cylinders, and the displacement on most of those bikes is at least 600 which the only motor thats a 2 after 600 usually is a triumph motor or vtwin off a harley. i said he should start off on a 2 cylinder because the difference in acceleration between the two is like 2 different worlds and if he is new it would be wise to begin on something cheap and slow.

edit: even if im wrong on the v twin, thats a completely different 2 cylinder world. that harley in my gallery is a vtwin that does the 10/11 second range on a quarter. but an inline 2 was kinda what i meant originally by a 2 cylinder. but i do believe you are right on the ducati thing.


These are specs on Ducati 999R read the part that says L-twin Cylinders

ENGINE
Type L-twin cylinder, 4 valves per cylinder Testastretta Desmodromic; liquid cooled
Displacement 999 cc
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Post Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:27 pm

yea but either way, when i first brought up 2 cylinder i was thinking inline 2. but i didnt think about v-twin
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Post Fri Apr 07, 2006 1:57 am

In any case a cruser is a better start off bike. handles better at lower speeds. speed is limited.
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Post Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:14 am

yea
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