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Monkeyschatze

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Post Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:18 am

I have a 2009 Nissan Rogue. icon_biggrin.gif My dealership has outfitted all the lights, low and hi beam and fog lights with a HID kits. I have been returning to the dealership on a regular basis, 7 times in 4 months icon_mad.gif . They have replaced ballastes, and done different grounding of wires but so far no luck. They have even ordered and replaced with a new kit, but I am still having the same issue!! icon_evil.gif
Both headlights dont always turn on upon starting vehicle. It is a random thing. Sometimes they both turn on, sometimes I only get one headlight. If I turn off my vehicle and restart it, they both come on. It also seems that the passenger headlight takes longer to "brighten" up.
I do have DRL in my lowbeams.
I love these headlights on my Rogue, and am fighting to keep them... icon_cry.gif
Any solutions that I can suggest to my dealership? Can someone help?
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Post Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:23 am

ok, well my first thought is usually DRL are a big issue, cause HID's dont like to have that 1/2 power that they are giving them, so that could be one problem. as for the rest, i mean, i would say just start fresh, use a wiring harness and you should be ok. also it could possibly be your headlight switch not working right? im not to familiar with this car so sorry.
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Post Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:38 am

Thank you for your reply. icon_biggrin.gif
I believe the switch is ok tho. Thanks for the info on HID's not liking 1/2 power. I never knew that. I becoming smarter about cars all the time. My husband is really impressed by my new knowledge!! icon_wink.gif
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Post Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:58 pm

haha yea, you remind me of my GF, she's learning too! also, try and see if there are anybody on some Nissan forums that may have had the same problem? just another idea
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Post Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:14 pm

No offense but if the DEALER did them make the DEALER fix them
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Post Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:18 pm

o yea, i also agree on that too. o and when i said harness, i meant to say relay lol
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Post Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:53 pm

I'm pretty sure the dealership installed a relay. Almost 100% positive actually. I agree the dealership should fix what they installed, but I was their "first" trial and unfortunately they are learning as well. I paid a lot of $$$ for the HIDs.
I can be very patient, but they keep offering to take the HID lights off, and return the headlights to their original "dullness". I told them that is NOT the solution! Once you have had HID on dark country roads in the black of night and spot a deer about a kilometer away, you"ll never go back to the old headlights- to which the deer had to be a lot closer to the car to see!
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Post Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:53 pm

I'd have them kill the DRL's and see if that does it
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Post Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:20 pm

Thank you for your reply. I will be talking to the manager on Monday. I will suggest that. I have no problem turning the lights off/on manually anyways. I just dont want to lose my HIDs.
Do u know if the DRL can be "hooked up" to the parking lights instead of the lowbeams? Will the parking lights then be more dim? icon_confused.gif
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Post Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:24 pm

Not recomended I have seen folks wire the highbeams as DRL's
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Post Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:35 pm

hmmm this is odd cause i was driving and i saw a rogue with stock HIDs, so im wodering why you are gettings problems.
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Post Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:27 am

I wonder if they were having a good day with both their Rogue HID lights on? icon_wink.gif Maybe they found the solution? If they have HIDs and are not having issues, I would love to know how they did it! BTW, just curious, how could you tell if they were stock? My dealership advised me that the Rogue didnt have that option of HIDs from Nissan, and that they were only available as OEM. icon_confused.gif
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Post Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:27 am

OEM=Original Equipment Manufacture , If thats true they ARE factory Nissan parts.
It sounds like they ordered Retrofit HID kits and installed them in your vehicle
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Post Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:24 pm

Yea, I've seen several rogue's now that im looking with HID bulbs, no projectors, and they have the standard pure white that comes with every other HID equipped car, so im assuming their stock, sounds like your dealer ordered aftermarket ones.
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Post Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:54 pm

I agree with venge, sounds like they just went with an aftermarket kit.

I would make sure that there is some sort of additional wiring harness with relay to help with the initial firing of the HID's.
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Post Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:20 pm

Ok, so now I need to ask: Does this mean the after market kits are not good-or as good, or that the issue IS the DRLs? The kit, installed cost over $1200!!! It has to be good, right? Maybe I also need to ask whether or not stock HIDs are available in Canada? We dont have the same access to product as the U.S. does. Dunno why that is...
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Post Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:16 pm

$1,200 bucks? Jesus Christ.
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Post Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:25 am

Most aftermarket kits are $100/$150 a pair US ... Add another $75/$100 for a harness if needed and the rest is likely LABOR I'd need to see pictures of the bulb/ballasts to see if they are aftermarket or OEM Some shops use other cars HID lights/ballasts as oposed to aftermarket
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Post Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:12 am

HID kits cost less than $25 now in China lol.

'twas a good business, but now just a commodity market.
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Post Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:54 am

DDM tuning got out of the HID market ...
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Post Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:50 am

so sad about ddm tuning, anyways, 1200 thats crazy lol
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Post Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:12 pm

Monkeyschatze wrote:
Ok, so now I need to ask: Does this mean the after market kits are not good-or as good, or that the issue IS the DRLs? The kit, installed cost over $1200!!! It has to be good, right? Maybe I also need to ask whether or not stock HIDs are available in Canada? We dont have the same access to product as the U.S. does. Dunno why that is...
AUGH!!
Help...


Aftermarket kits can be great, it just depends on the manufacturer. The problem doesn't sound like its solely the DRL's.

As for the $1200 that sounds really expensive, even with labor being included. I just had a set of custom headlights made for my sunfire, and paid less than half of your price.
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Post Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:25 pm

The parts manager is checking to see if disconnecting/rerouting the DRLs can be done on the Rogue. I asked if they could be rewired to run the parking lights instead of the low beams or fog lights, when I start my car. That way there will always be some lights on. All vehicles in Canada have to have mandatory DRLs of some sort...
I just am trying my best to keep these HIDs on my ROGUE. I have not seen another Rogue in Canada with HIDs. icon_biggrin.gif
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Post Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:00 pm

Monkeyschatze wrote:
I have a 2009 Nissan Rogue. icon_biggrin.gif My dealership has outfitted all the lights, low and hi beam and fog lights with a HID kits. I have been returning to the dealership on a regular basis, 7 times in 4 months icon_mad.gif . They have replaced ballastes, and done different grounding of wires but so far no luck. They have even ordered and replaced with a new kit, but I am still having the same issue!! icon_evil.gif
Both headlights dont always turn on upon starting vehicle. It is a random thing. Sometimes they both turn on, sometimes I only get one headlight. If I turn off my vehicle and restart it, they both come on. It also seems that the passenger headlight takes longer to "brighten" up.
I do have DRL in my lowbeams.
I love these headlights on my Rogue, and am fighting to keep them... icon_cry.gif
Any solutions that I can suggest to my dealership? Can someone help?


As silly as this sounds, I JUUST had an issue with some bs with my headlights. Where they didn't work at all or turned on when they felt like it. Where your plug/relay for the HIDS..make sure it is in a up-right position with NO liquid in there... believe me, two drops can do all the damage in the world (like corrode and break off the pins for power). I'm lucky **** didn't short out.
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Post Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:27 am

I believe I've found the solution. In Canada we are required by law to have DRL. I had the dealership reroute the DRL to be the parking lights instead of the 1/2 power low beams. From what I understand... HIDs dont like the 1/2 voltage they get from DRLs.
They also replaced the HID system with an upgraded version.
Its been a few weeks now and I have no longer had the random one or two lights "on" problem.
I am so happy... so far, and I hope this issue is forever resolved!!! icon_biggrin.gif
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Post Sat Apr 30, 2011 9:04 am

bad venge wrote:
DDM tuning got out of the HID market ...


They're still up and running. I was at their shop in San Diego a couple weeks ago icon_smile.gif
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