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Whats the cheapest way to add more horsepower

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SuBXeRo

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Post Mon Nov 03, 2003 5:44 pm

what the cheapest way. i dont wanna spend thousands of dollars whats the cheapest way. my car has 190 now and i think it needs more icon_smile.gif
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Post Mon Nov 03, 2003 5:54 pm

a cold air intak is good cheap way to add horse power
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Post Mon Nov 03, 2003 6:31 pm

poor some sprite in the gas tank icon_rolleyes.gif
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Post Mon Nov 03, 2003 6:37 pm

Phil wrote:
poor some sprite

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Post Mon Nov 03, 2003 7:07 pm

Nitrous is the proven cheapest most bang for the buck way to add a few more pony's. but im thinkin the best long lasting would be a turbo or supercharger.
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Post Mon Nov 03, 2003 7:33 pm

You don't want to just throw nitrous into your engine by itself - chances are you'll end up blowing something apart doing that.

Intake and muffler are a couple of the cheaper things. Others can include port/polished heads and full exaust, computer upgrades, etc
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Post Mon Nov 03, 2003 10:21 pm

i was just about to say intake and exhaust as well. chips are probably the next cheapest, than maybe headers or something
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Post Tue Nov 04, 2003 8:31 pm

he never said he didnt wanna tear **** up. icon_lol.gif
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Post Sat Nov 15, 2003 8:02 pm

Actually I believe throttle body spacers are the cheapest way to increase power without spending a lot. They are also very easy to install and no one would know they're there even if they looked under the hood.

The next cheapest is an whole new intake, then I belive a turbo charger depending on the application. A nitrous system is good if you want power for strictly speed but can get pricey. It's a lot more involved to put in too.
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Post Thu Nov 20, 2003 1:58 pm

nitrous is good for sudden bursts of speed i dun want that lol. i just ant long lasting horsepower u know. i want stuff that is only under the hood u know. i mean i just want my car to be over 200 hp its 190 now i just want sum more horses
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Post Thu Nov 20, 2003 5:10 pm

cold air intake will add like 15 hp i think
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Post Thu Nov 20, 2003 6:37 pm

cold air intake and like someone said earlier throttle body spacer maybe some billet pullies mainly stuff that helps your car breathe better, dual exhaust, 2.5 inch exhaust or 3 inch pipes all the way through headers etc.
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Post Thu Nov 20, 2003 7:14 pm

bigger exhaust isnt always better. smaller displacement engines need more back pressure for optimum hp. cold air intakes vary on hp gains from application to application.
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Post Fri Nov 21, 2003 10:08 pm

better flow is always better.
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Post Sat Nov 22, 2003 2:30 am

88oldscutlass wrote:
better flow is always better.

Not true. dbismyname is completely right when he says that some smaller engines require more backpressure to optimize HP.
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Post Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:45 am

If ya want a cold air intake I think K&N is still the best I know they have kits that can add up to 35 hp, but they may only be for pickup trucks. They are also a bit more pricey then other companies.

Spacers are cheaper and if all yo want is another 10 -15 hp that's the way I would go.

How many horses does your car have stock and what mods have you made so far?

My truck comes with 175 stock and I've added a Ractiveair intake that stepped it up to 190. I'm gona swap that out to a K&N sooner or later.
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Post Sat Nov 22, 2003 11:13 am

What kidn of vehicle are you trying to fix up? icon_confused.gif
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Post Sat Nov 22, 2003 3:11 pm

yeah smaller exhaust for smaller engines but you can still upgrade it to give the **** motor better flow still im not sayin put a 5 inch exhaust on a geo metro. if it were that **** of a car i'd say go for the what appears to be .5 inch exhaust to a 1 inch or 1.5 " thats always gonna get better results than stock. all i was sayin is an upgraded exhaust will always benefit you as long as its not so big so as to make the engine think its running right out of the manifold. also what do ya'll consider a small engine, just wondering.
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Post Sat Nov 22, 2003 3:29 pm

its a 1996 Ifiniti I30 with 190 horsepower stock
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Post Sat Nov 22, 2003 9:16 pm

What kind of engine.
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Post Sun Nov 23, 2003 11:23 am

v6 3.0 litre. its the same engine thats in a nissan maxima
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Post Thu Nov 27, 2003 12:37 am

intake and exhaust. Here is an example of a home made intake system I designed and built for my old car.

http://www.mccstheater.com/airintake/

For a v6, a single 3 inch cone would be perfect for it. Maybe a 2 or 2.5 inch cone. It doesn't have to be K&N, but if you do get a cone like I had, I would recommend getting the K&N spray that allows you to reuse the filter. The cone filters breath a lot better, however they tend to let a little more dirt through. Using the K&N spray on them will help to catch some of that unwanted dirt, and will also allow you to reuse the filter later =)
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Post Fri Nov 28, 2003 6:06 pm

A cutout and an intake should give you really high gains. icon_smile.gif
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Post Fri May 14, 2004 11:50 am

I know this post is old but I have something to add. One thing that everyone forgets about is the electronic beside the computer upgrades. I talking about your general spark you know the thing that gives you whole car to go vrooom. Well I know of two devices that will help improve your horsepower and torgh. The fist device is a HVS (Hyper Voltage System), this will help stabilize your electrical system and give a better saprk and lower the resistance on your alternator. The second device is a HGS ( Hyper Ground System), this device will improve your grounding from your engine to your battery. If you go to these website you will be able to read better about them and know that they will work.
One day when I get a car that I'm able to keep (if you see my gallery you will understand what I mean) I will be purchasing these.



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Post Fri May 14, 2004 8:40 pm

i've heard about the hyper ground system, but haven't heard of the other one. Both of these will give you more hp

also air intake about 20 hp about $150
exhaust about 20 hp about $200
computer chip about 20 hp about $300

if you do all of these it will caust about $650, but you will get about 60 hp. Thats an estimate of $11 for 1 hp, but if you had the money i would definatly get some more hp.
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Post Sat May 15, 2004 5:13 am

I don't know where you are getting your numbers from.. if you do intake and exhaust combined you might get a 20hp gain... you usually get about 5hp gain doing intake.. exhaust depending on the mod can add a lot though. If you have a V8 with a single exhaust line and you change it to dual with larger pipes, it could make a decent difference. You really shouldn't expect more than 20 hp improvement if you do the combination of intake and exhaust.

Chip yet again depends on the existing chip and other mods you have on the vehicle.
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Post Sat May 15, 2004 2:57 pm

actually,adding an airintake will only give you about 3 hp at the MOST.

adding a higher flowing exhaust will grab you a fewmore ponies, like 5 atthemost, but you will lose around 7 ft/lbs of torque on average.


dont let anyone tell you you are gonna gain 20 horsepower from an airfilter or air intake. that is pure ****.

also, your '190 horsepower' engine has about 140 horsepower. dont believe me? bring it to a dyno shop and do a couple pulls and see what you come up with.

the best way to gain horsepower for notmuch money is a chip, on average they add around 7 HP and maybe 3 ftlbs. first get a K&N, drill some 1/2" holes in the airbox (about 10-15 of them) that will get you 2 HP and it will make it sound alot cooler, then add a higher flowing muffler, like a turbo muffler or a flowmaster, something with high flow, and then get a crankshaft underdrive pulley, or pulley set, and then get a chip burned, youll see around 25 real horsepower

any other questions?
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Post Sat May 15, 2004 5:52 pm

sorry, my #'s is from other people, but you guys are right.... its a 5-8 hp gain. The bigger the truck the more hp. But also its cheaper around $60 which is still around $11 for 1 hp.
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Post Mon May 17, 2004 5:56 am

why would it actually be 140 hp? if it is then every other car out there is overrated also
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Post Mon May 17, 2004 9:31 am

SuBXeRo wrote:
why would it actually be 140 hp? if it is then every other car out there is overrated also


There are two numbers. One is what the engine puts out, and the other is what actually hits the road. Horsepower is lost through the tranny, friction in the gears, etc. Engine and car manufacturers only advertise what the engine puts out, not what you would see on a dyno....
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Post Tue May 18, 2004 4:11 pm

Alright this is the cheapest way to gain horsepower:
1) cut off your A/C compressor belt
2) cut off your power stearing belt
3) lighten you load (get rid of your friends, all you stereo equipment like extra speakers)
4) don't race at all
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Post Tue May 18, 2004 8:19 pm

thats called freeing up your horsepower and why would you wanna turn your power steering off especially if its meant for the street. ac i can understand sorta because thats easy to turn off and on power steering is a bit different. why get rid of your friends then your just bored. dont race then whats the point in having a powerful engine... just so you can say you have it, thats talk and talk is cheap. those are just my thoughts and what we really wanted is engine upgrades and mods that are more permanent in that they stay on your car at all times but dont take away from its functionability.
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Post Tue May 18, 2004 8:51 pm

He asked for the cheapest and he got the cheapest. Not racing at all is definetly the cheapest way to go.

I broke 3 rear end gears on my camaro in a yr. 400 a pop (3.73 gears)
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Post Tue May 18, 2004 9:55 pm

SuBXeRo wrote:
why would it actually be 140 hp? if it is then every other car out there is overrated also


Car Manufacturers advertise the horsepower the car puts out at the crank. There is a 15-20% loss to the rear wheels depending on the vehicle.

Like I was once told at the local speedshop "You gotta pay to play"
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Post Wed May 19, 2004 6:08 pm

cheezer wrote:
Like I was once told at the local speedshop "You gotta pay to play"


Hehe... there are alot of cheap, inexpensive mods you can do to yeild you a little gains. However, as stated above, typically the faster you want to go... the more its going to cost you.

L8R,
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Post Wed May 19, 2004 8:12 pm

or If you seeking to get cheap mods then you should invest in a faster car that needs not to much more mods.
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Post Sun Aug 22, 2004 9:09 pm

Could Stick your aircondition tube into the intake.. as well as you rwindshield wiper fluid fo ra fake nos alky hit =D if anyone tries this you better post.
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Post Sun Aug 22, 2004 9:21 pm

Your First Post... Dug up a 3 month old Topic, Made no sense and used the worst english ever.

Welcome to Oznium.con you will be right at home.
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Post Sun Aug 22, 2004 11:08 pm

Dont mind the still rather noobie Moss. Welcome to Oznium dont let some of the few ass holes around here scare you off.
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Post Mon Aug 23, 2004 12:07 am

werd

Welcome to Oznium. Got pics of the car?
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Post Mon Aug 23, 2004 6:55 am

oznium.con hahahaha biglaugh.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

Your one to talk...
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Post Mon Aug 23, 2004 7:36 am

Welcome to the OZ
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Post Mon Aug 23, 2004 11:08 am

Tim I meant .com, sorry. Im sure you had no idea what I was talking about. So whats it like being perfect again?
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Post Mon Aug 23, 2004 2:39 pm

STICKERS!!!!!!!!
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Post Mon Aug 23, 2004 2:41 pm

Ryan88 wrote:
STICKERS!!!!!!!!

and lights
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Post Tue Aug 24, 2004 2:43 pm

Dont mind the rude people, they are not common...

Welcome to the board.... biglaugh.gif
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Post Tue Aug 24, 2004 2:59 pm

Mav wrote:
intake and exhaust. Here is an example of a home made intake system I designed and built for my old car.

http://www.mccstheater.com/airintake/

For a v6, a single 3 inch cone would be perfect for it. Maybe a 2 or 2.5 inch cone. It doesn't have to be K&N, but if you do get a cone like I had, I would recommend getting the K&N spray that allows you to reuse the filter. The cone filters breath a lot better, however they tend to let a little more dirt through. Using the K&N spray on them will help to catch some of that unwanted dirt, and will also allow you to reuse the filter later =)


I liek that - looks dope!
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Post Tue Aug 24, 2004 4:50 pm

yes, that does look pretty cool
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Post Mon Sep 20, 2004 2:54 pm

has anybody noticed that there really isnt much advanced technical discussion about true performance on this board?
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Post Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:58 pm

Maybe because its mainly a lighting board....

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Post Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:09 pm

DragonJeep wrote:
Maybe because its mainly a lighting board....

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